I am 61 years of age and still working a demanding yet fulfilling career. I have always been a great daughter. I have been invested in my mother's care all of my life and more recently since her open heart surgery during May 2009. We had hope that following her surgery that she would recover to the point where she could return to her home. That did not happen. She was in one facility after another starting in Pittsburgh and then I had her transferred to my home area in Maryland. She was discharged from a chronic care facility the end of October 2011 and I had her moved in with me and my roommate. I have in-home care to help us out. She has never been a "people" person unlike me and my now deceased father and still living brother, who by the way is of absolutely no help. My mother is given the best of care under my watchful eye. She has doctors in our area and I am very vigilant. She has a trach but is doing well according to her cardiologist. I am taking her to visit her home in Pennsylvania for four days next month. All she does is complain, complain, complain. My roommate bless her heart took her to two doctor's appointments this week so that I could get a full week of work in. My mother is spoiled and never smiles. Everything gets on her nerves. It is difficult living with her. I have always had my "space" as she lived in Pennsylvania and I lived in Maryland although I did visit her every month and many times more regularly as she aged. She is now 86. Her mind is very keen. I come home from a very hard day of work and the minute I step in her room I hear negative negative negative. I can tell she doesn't like it that my roommate took her to those two doctor's appointments but too bad. No one can imagine the great care I give her as well as my roommate. I took three months off from my career when she had her heart surgery and slept most of them in my car at the hospital parking garage in Pittsburgh so that I could be extremely involved in her recovery. People always comment what a great daughter. Well, I am now depressed and want two little vacations this year to the beach and NYC. I deserve a few days away. For her its all about her. I have taken her on countless nice vacations over the years. She adores my brother who lives in Pa. She never says that I deserve a vacation. When she was 61 I was taking her on trips and spoiling her. She really expects me to give up my life until she dies and that is perfectily ok with her. Is this truly love? I don't think so. When I see my Goddaughter, age 26, a few hours on a weekend I can tell my mother is not liking it. In fact, once I took my Goddaughter into my mother's nice room to say hello and she ignored her feigning a headache! I told myself I will never again subject my Goddaughter to that! My mother gets pissy with with inhome help and my roommate. She is unhappy but then she never was a joyful person. I am sick of it. I just needed to vent today. I will continue to do my best while having the most healthy life I can have for myself. I will not retire before I am ready. My career helps me to maintain my sanity. This is not how I envisioned my life to be. I never had children and thought that at my age, I could enjoy life. I have no real pleasure because I have two jobs, my career and my mother. All of my life I have protected and taken care of her and even listened as she constancly complained about my deceased father. She should be ashamed of herself. Yes, I know she is 86 and her years are now limited. But so are mine. Oh,by the way, she has said she will kill herself if I ever put her in a nursing facility. She does not have to worry, I would not do that. She will remain in our home. We even bent over backwards and set up a beautiful room for her. She got mad at me when I surprised her and brought back a few of her things to decorate her room when I last took her to Pa. Instead of smiling and thanking me, she felt I did this behind her back and she did not appreciate it! I hate all of this! I would appreciate some emotional support to my e-mail. Thanks in advance.
s up with this?
before I ever leave town I always make sure there are two relatives who visit her regularly in town. Her sister, which is 86 and goes in once a week and my daughters mil goes in to visit once a week and now another church friend offered to visit. Mom recognizes each one and remembers that she is expecting a visit. I do get a breather on those days however I can't plan anything cause they can cancel there visiting days. Typically if I have gone in everyday during the week I can pick and choose a day for me. Like today. her sister visited yesterday and I'm getting some things necessary before my leaving to my 2 daughters. I'm sure she will be fine. I asked many CNA to watch for signs of depression and excuses of " poor me" attitude and I want to die attitude" . When I return everybody tells me how good her attitude was without me. last week she decided to express those feelings. Nowthere is a new baby expected in the family and I'm so certain there is concern of jealousy. I assured her when the baby comes and he will be happy to meet all the grandmothers. And also I am going to attend my youngest daughter graduation from her fellowshiP of her specialty in OBGYN. I am so excited to have this opportunity. I wish my mom would be there . But not under those circumstance it's not possible and not realistic. Thanks all for listening and your supportive comments. Hugs and more Hugs
Equinox
Tired, I would love it if I could get her to her family dr. for an assessment, however: she will not let me in with her to see her dr., nor will she tell me the truth about what she says (by the time she gets home from her appt. she has some dire disease that she has fabricated and I get none of the truth of what the dr. says) and also: she is so skilled at wangling the younger dr.s (which he is) that she just denies she has any problems health- or mental-wise. In fact she tried to convince them that she never had cancer , lies about having diabetes and maintains that she never had 3 heart attacks!! She's got an answer for everything!
She doesn't want us, her family, to know the truth about what is wrong with her (when there IS something wrong with her), that way she can manipulate the information to tell her friends how dire things are with her, and get the attention she wants. Sounds desperate, doesn't it??
Never at loss for a negative comment: check
Favors the male child (who is not doing anything for her): check
Trying to do positive things for her is seen as "going behind her back": check
I'm also depressed, and it's taking a toll on me as well.
Could your mother possibly have a mental illness? I ask because part of my mother's issues is that she's been diagnosed with paranoia (and probably depression as well). If that's the case, maybe her doctor can prescribe her something that will make her moods more stable. Even if she doesn't need psychotropic medications, her doctor may be able to choose medications that have a mildly sedating effect or medications that are less likely to contribute to her irritability.
Sometimes it feels like I have made a lot of accomodations and received very little appreciation, so I can relate to your situation. If you can arrange for a caregiver while you go on vacation, go for it! It's good to have a break so you can have time to concentrate on yourself. Take care.
Whenever I do get out and return, she has always fabricated a life-threatening event. "I almost choked to death when you were gone", "what will I do while you're out if I need help - oh I'll just call 911, they'll come and break the door down"........I should have seen this coming 25 yrs ago when she started harping at me about not having my driver's licence, and then it was "what will happen to me when I take sick?" (at that time there was absolutely nothing wrong with her.
She has sabotaged many, many happy events in my life because of her need for narcissistic supply, including my daughter's wedding and other important things such as the births of my grandchildren. If one of her friends becomes ill, she has to as well, to upstage them and get the attention.
I firmly believe that their behaviour stems from narcissism/personality disorder coupled with insecurity, need for control and loneliness. The interesting part of this is that my mother lived alone in her apartment for 40 yrs.!! and wanted it that way!
Now that she has fallen several times (with and without us being here) there is always that fear on my part that when I do go anywhere, it will happen but then of course I will be blamed for it. I have suggested having a care worker to come and stay with her while we are gone but she will not pay for it.
Yes, they are sneaky and dramatic and histrionic. They also lie and deny anything that will make them guilty of doing something.
When I am out she will go all over the house, reading things that she shouldn't and because she has this fear (insecurity) of being left out and has to know everything in case she misses something or gets the impression she is being taken advantage of, coupled with her suspicious and untrusting nature, there is a fair amount of snooping going on......I know this because one day she had blurted out of the blue that she had read a bank statement in the kitchen -- of course it didn't belong to her and she had no right doing that. Woe to those who would do that to her!!
Hugs to all for being there for the elderly. My mom is in NH. I can't blame her for not liking where she is. but it's safe place and many other good things about it.
I am planning a trip to visit my adult daughters. I guess it seems like when ever I leave town her personality changes. She will not eat, she gives the aids a challenging argument and excuses for getting out of bed. Then when she's ready, the aid is not quickly available. I am very sensitive to her behavior. She is sneaky, and very dramatic. Is this all part of alz/dementia and narsistic behavior. The only thing she is in control of is food and getting out of bed. Nobody can force her. This behavior is not really unusual for her reaction. It's just that it is more about her not wanting to live when I go out of town. We need the chance to be ourselves. I think of my mom practically 24/7. I just hope I don't bring up these behaviors with my daughters when I am her age. They don't know why I tolerate this behavior. I try to not argue and remind my self to redirect cause there is that possibility it may work. Thank you for listening. Take care of yourselves .
Equinox
That baby (by the way THAT BABY is YOUR granddaughter!!) has been here all day and she needs to get her home to bed!" WHY????? she isn't bothering anyone and.......are YOU looking after her? I just want to walk into her room with a big giant STOP sign and hang it on the wall in front of her..........lay off already!!
Some studies have shown that crabby negative seniors live longer than quiet ones -and their caregivers die earlier. I take that seriously. They always have another job for you, I know. Glad you are enjoying your grandbaby. Hugs to her from me.
Next breath: "Look up this recipe for me - I wrote down the website"
OMG she's at it again - she doesn't STOP: anything left lying around is fair game - a load of my daughter's laundry, that I did for her, was left on a chair - I don't see why you have to do her laundry for her" - she's PREGNANT!! Are YOU doing it WHY do you even care?
My grandbaby is here today and I'm having a lovely time with her, but of course, she's fair game too - doesn't that baby ever get a full meal? she's drinking too much milk; she needs a hat on; that jacket isn't warm enough..........blah, blah blah ......do they do this to make themselves important? or to feel authoritative? or WHAT? because all the things she comments on are none of her business or her issues. After the towel remark I said, they are they for my daughter to pick up, not for you to comment on. But even that doesn't work!!
I won a small victory today - on taking the baby up to the coffee shop for a walk (she's a toddler) - I asked my mother if she wanted me to bring her something .
Of course she wanted a donut, not any donut it has to be a Boston Cream-filled for maximum calorific content.
Ok so as soon as we got ready to go she started up on me about the baby again "Oh how can that poor little thing walk all that way? That's mean, making her do that." So I said, "Fine - if you keep badgering me about the baby then we're not going and you'll be out of a donut." Good one, huh? That shut her up in a hurry!!
No amount of telling her stops her for long though. It starts up as soon as she finds something to beef about. How can somebody live so long when they are so full of negativity?
golf - you are right, detachment...not easy but do-able.
judy - it is NOT you. Being sympathetic, I have found, does not help. Objectively assessing the situation does. The people who think she is a sweet litle old lady don't have to deal with her regularly. Thanks about my son - it was and still is some times excrutiatingly painful. You are right, there would still be complaints
amber - it is the only solution in my case. A narcissistic parent is toxic and affects your health. With the stress of moving mother, the first time, 2 years ago, I developed a systemic candidiasis infection that I am still battling, Stress affects your immune system. 45% of people who get this die. I have to take that seriously. I am better, but not out of the woods yet, and still in treatment. Mother, of course, doesn't even acknowledge most of the time, that I have any health problems, and still bombards me with requests - this morning it is that she wants to move into an ALF in another city. It is totally crazy. I find ignoring much is best. Sometimes she forgets.
((((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))) to all
I said to my mother "I don't see why you feel it necessary to dictate what you think should be done with the baby, to me - I am not her mother". She says, dismissing me from her doorway, "well off you go then - forget about it". You bet I will! Your way of not taking responsibility is to dismiss me rather than say you were just trying to help (NOT!!)and because you don't like what I say to you, it's easier for you to tell me to get lost! Always the way..........
Anyway I'm in the kitchen at 10 last night - she roars out of her bedroom with her "authoritative" voice - "I'm coming in - I'd like to speak to you." I said, okay, what do you need?"
With a long bony finger pointed in my direction, it's "There's a cheque written on my account! I didn't write it! I need an explanation! You people (last time I checked we were her FAMILY......)
I said, okay, let me see your bank statement and I will try to sort it out...as usual, I stay calm and do my best to be helpful. She always save these stunts for bedtime, later at night or first thing in the morning, for maximum drama and effect.
When she first came to live with us, she had new cheques printed up, with her name and my name on them. I looked in the record to see if I could figure out what the amount written to my husband was for, and I asked him but he had no recollection. Meanwhile, the other one is ranting on about how we are taking advantage of her, stealing her money right from under her nose, she's such a sucker (self-pitying) etc. I'm not one for confrontation, so I was determined to get to the bottom of it.
Lucky for me, on the back of this particular chequebook I had written down three amounts that totalled the same amount of this cheque, and remembered that I had written it to my husband. But instead of using one of my own cheques with my name on it, I had mistakenly taken one of her cheques with both our names on it! It was a MISTAKE!!
But i'm not ALLOWED to make any mistakes - only SHE is!
I went into her room and explained what had happened. Did I get an apology, you are wondering? Pigs might fly!! I sat right in front of her, and, using one of my own cheques, wrote her out a new one to pay her back. She just sat there, waiting.......I put the cheque on her nightstand and said, there you go, you are fully paid back from the mistake I made, it was an accident, you can run to the bank tomorrow and put your money back in.....NOW GOOD NIGHT! and shut the door.
Of course, this morning when I brought in her breakfast tray, it`s all sweetness and light.....no mention of anything but as I expected, the guilt over what she had done/said forced her to create a self-serving situation, so I also got "I think I've picked up a little cold." I hear this at least once a week and had to stifle a laugh at her attempt to garner sympathy for herself, when she spoke to me so rudely, so accusitorily, basically admitted that she didn't trust me, belittled and insulted me -- but THAT'S OK!!
Now she's fallen asleep at 10 in the morning. Yes, I realize I should be forgiving and polite - and of course, I am because that's how she raised me - but I am beyond sick of this do as I say, not as I do self-righteous crap she dishes out. Why, if I had accused her of something like this, it would be World War 3!!
Whenever she has done wrong and knows it, she just shifts and covers the blame and responsibility, will never admit she is wrong, will never apologize. I'm very sad to say that one of my daughters has inherited her EXACT personality and it is so upsetting to see a young person like her, so full of promise, so beautiful and smart, struggle with her problems with others, work, etc. because she is a clone of the "other one".
End of the story: I will be giving back her chequebook and I will not have anything to do with her banking. She is fully capable of doing it herself. Once we were cheated out of our rent for two months because she insisted that it had been paid (she had no proof of this and may have doctored a document or two -- nothing is beyond her when it comes to money).
These people are so toxic that there should be an island created just for them to live on and have to put up with each other - misery loves company - maybe an island like the one in Norway where that idiot when crazy and shot everyone!
(Kidding, people........)
So sorry you had an incident with your mum. As always, look after you, and agreed, sharing is good and helpful.((((hugs))))
lyoung -you can't erase all the bad stuff from your mum's life - just not possible. She is living alone, and presumably still competent to make decisions for herself, even if you don't agree with them or even see then as potentially harmful. Sometimes it is a matter of let go, and let God - do the best you can within reason, and then let the chips fall where they may. You can't live her life for her, nor can you cushion the reality that she is losing control. It is something most face as they age - part of life. Sounds to me like you could benefit from getting your mind off mum for a bit, pursuing some other interests in your life, doing something that is enjoyable for you.
My father had just turned 62 (I'm sixty now!!) when he died of cancer but seriously, I think he had just had enough of my mother and her narcissism and perfectionism and drank himself to death as a way of escape. He passed away two months after he got his diagnosis of lung cancer. I had my two girls ages 8 and 5 and a husband who was out of the country/town on business all the time. My mother minded the girls while I went to my Dad's funeral but she had not one iota of sadness or anything to say about it and it make me sick. My father died while I was on the way to the hospital to see him and I didn't get there in time to say goodbye to him which has haunted me the rest of my life since then.
I could barely stand at the funeral and I didn't really want to go at all, I was in shock and still as of this day, I have never gone back to his gravestone.
As I see it, he did everything he could, bought her everything she wanted, said all the right things, took her where she wanted, etc. all to no avail -- it just wasn't enough, or good enough ....... nothing he ever did could have been. To me, he was the world, very handsome, very well known, knew a lot of celebrities, prestigious man in our community, great job, you name it. Very social and I really believe my mother was jealous of him. She badgered him incessantly with her accusations and, on his out-of-town trips, he would barely make it in the door after two long weeks of being away, before she would already be ferreting away in his suitcase for "evidence of the mischief he's been up to". Well, I wouldn't blame him if he had been up to anything!
My mother shoved me out the front door with a suitcase and a $10 bill when I was 20. It was her way of getting rid of me, for she must have been jealous of the relationship between my father and myself, and saw me as the catalyst for all the problems in their relationship - although we know who was really at fault.
My brother left home on his own at 16. He was never the same - once you've been made to feel unwanted, unwelcome and unloved, you just go the other direction.
Anyway I have really enjoyed your postings even though they are sad, as are mine. I also have a daughter with Asperger's so my plate has become a plate and a half. I had a very nasty incident with my mother tonight which I'll relate tomorrow - too exhausted right now mentally and physically.
But I do believe that by sharing our stories on here we can learn from each other, help and support each other and, above all, not feel that we are alone in this difficult journey we have undertaken.
Thanks for listening and be well - tomorrow is another day, Scarlett!! Thank God for AgingCare!
"Don't be too available" is exactly right. Some one asked me how I got out of making arrangements for my mother's upcoming birthday, as I have done those things all my life. I figured I had time-off coming. Someone else (i.e. my sister) could do it. So I wasn't available, didn't take the bait, didn't respond to the guilt trips, kept focussed on me, and what I needed to do for me (still playing catch up on that stuff), and frankly, and I know only those who have a narcissistic parent will truely will understand, gave myself permission to n ot even go if it was going to be too stressful. Sig other was shocked, but his family is normal. I didn't go to my father's funeral, (and I was close to him), as my sis and mother were so nasty to me around that time, I couldn't have handled it. Instead, I went alone, across the country, to see him a few days before he died, and that was a gift, and I had peace, and so did he. You have to do what you have to do, and you can't do what you can't do. The "normal" social rules do not apply often, when dealing with narcissism or personality disorders. My youngest son had been dead a few months aged 23, and I was visiting mother, She said to me that she wanted to have someone over for tea, because it was easier for her when I was there. I said no, as I was in no shape to socialize. Heavens, I could hardly remember to brush my teeth, but she went ahead anyway, and called this person and started to invite her over for tea. I repeated that is wasn't going to work for me, and she got upset with me, and said I was rude. I left, and didn't stay with her again till recently.When she was mad at the hospital for not treating her as she felt she should be treated, she also got mad at me and said she noticed how my son got preferential treatment when he was in hospital (dying), and she didn't. Their cruelty has no bounds. I wish I had said what was on my mind which was "Wake up and smell the coffee, mother! He was a young man who had been assaulted and was dying, you are a crabby old woman who has nothing wrong with her. except that she wants attention."
I would advise any one thinking about taking a narcissistic oparent into their home to give it very serious thought. They truely are toxic, and the stress is very hard on you. I had not realized how hard it was, until I distanced myself from it.