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My first thought was to remove the nobs but I'm not sure if that would work. Do they do a lot of cooking Bobby? It might be simpler to turn off the gas and rely on other appliances - microwave, counter top oven, induction burner, slow cooker, instant pot etc.
I saw this item for electric stoves promoted on Shark Tank several years ago. They now offer this one for gas stoves. It was invented by a firefighter.
It won’t replace protection for the knobs to prevent the stove being turned on, but would be a good backup if a fire does start. We don’t have one because it wasn’t an issue when I first learned about and I had forgotten about it but it is now on my to-do list. Thank you for the reminder to be safe. I will now be looking at options to prevent my husband from turning on the stove as well
I cannot answer your question about the stove, except follow some of our readers' suggestions. My main point here is concern about your memory loss spouse who is no longer safe staying in the home and should be placed into memory care.
We purchased these for my FIL who had dementia and MIL insisted on caring for him herself at home. They definitely kept him out, but kept her out too, so she ended up using the microwave for everything. Now that he has passed, she has taken them off.https://www.amazon.com/Safety-1st-Child-Proof-Covers/dp/B00068O22S/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=1ANQ6JWJ1Y5G0&keywords=gas+stove+knob+covers+for+child+safety&qid=1680178426&sprefix=gas+stove+knob%2Caps%2C297&sr=8-3
I am so sorry that you have to deal with this situation, it is never easy for anyone.
I pulled the knobs off of my gas stove when my MIL with dementia started messing with them. I kept them a bowl in an upper cabinet by the stove for when I needed them. They are very easy to pull off, and even easier to put back on. It’s definitely easier then using child-proof covers.
BobbyD10: Per Google - "What is an automatic stove shut off device? It’s an automatic stove shut off device that works for electric or gas stoves. It has a built in motion detector and will shut off the gas after no motion has been detected for 5 minutes. For your peace of mind, it will send an alert to your smartphone."
Disclaimer: The above information is not my authoring.
BobbyD10: This may not be what you're looking for, but may be a safer option as one individual has dementia.
Locking anyone in a bedroom at any time is dangerous and illegal.would raise flags with APS. What if there were a fire, tornado or any event where they would NEED to get out and couldn't?
Some carers may decide to lock a person with dementia in their home so that they cannot leave. However, a person with dementia should never be locked in if they are on their own as this can be very dangerous – for example if there is a fire, or if they have an accident or fall.
The covers for the knobs are not easy to remove or put on or they wouldn't be considered or called child proof.
All knobs are designed to come off for cleaning, etc. There are many touch panels for stoves. I would imagine that there are.some with a lockout feature.
In most stove models, the control knobs can be pulled right off. In gas stoves, although they control the flow of gas to the burners, you do not need to shut off the gas before removing the knobs. You will, however, want to make sure the knobs are firmly in the off position. They will turn no further in that direction so you can just pull them out without worrying about activating the gas or electricity to the burner.
I agree with removing the knobs. An alternative would be to ask a plumber to put an add an on/off valve on the line coming in to the stove, out of sight from the person with dementia. Then the spouse could turn the gas on and off from there. This would not be a good option if your gas stove relies on a pilot light that has to be relit.
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APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
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We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
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APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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Do they do a lot of cooking Bobby? It might be simpler to turn off the gas and rely on other appliances - microwave, counter top oven, induction burner, slow cooker, instant pot etc.
Any childproofing covers would likely require too much hand strength.
I kept this info from another poster
https://iguardfire.com/
https://fireavert.com/product/fireavert-gas-stove-automatic-shut-off-shark-tank-special/
It won’t replace protection for the knobs to prevent the stove being turned on, but would be a good backup if a fire does start. We don’t have one because it wasn’t an issue when I first learned about and I had forgotten about it but it is now on my to-do list. Thank you for the reminder to be safe. I will now be looking at options to prevent my husband from turning on the stove as well
I pulled the knobs off of my gas stove when my MIL with dementia started messing with them. I kept them a bowl in an upper cabinet by the stove for when I needed them. They are very easy to pull off, and even easier to put back on. It’s definitely easier then using child-proof covers.
Good luck with this!
Disclaimer: The above information is not my authoring.
BobbyD10: This may not be what you're looking for, but may be a safer option as one individual has dementia.
Taking the knobs off is dangerous and if they have a newer model stove the knobs don't come off.
https://www.findlaw.com/injury/torts-and-personal-injuries/false-imprisonment.html
Nursing home staff who medicates a patient without their permission
https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/about-dementia/symptoms-and-diagnosis/supporting-person-dementia-who-walks-about
Some carers may decide to lock a person with dementia in their home so that they cannot leave. However, a person with dementia should never be locked in if they are on their own as this can be very dangerous – for example if there is a fire, or if they have an accident or fall.
They can be kept in a drawer or cabinet next to the stove.
There are child proof covers that are placed over existing knobs and the cover opens and you can access the knob.
All knobs are designed to come off for cleaning, etc. There are many touch panels for stoves. I would imagine that there are.some with a lockout feature.
https://ars.repair/oven-repair/how-to-remove-and-replace-stove-burner-knobs/
In most stove models, the control knobs can be pulled right off. In gas stoves, although they control the flow of gas to the burners, you do not need to shut off the gas before removing the knobs. You will, however, want to make sure the knobs are firmly in the off position. They will turn no further in that direction so you can just pull them out without worrying about activating the gas or electricity to the burner.