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I’m 24 and I take care of both my elderly parents. Between both of them, their doctor appointments & physical therapy appointments fill up my calendar. They have appointments five days out of the week.


This has been going on for two years already. The elderly services in my state only provide transportation if the individual can transfer from vehicles on their own.


How do other caregivers manage multiple appointments every week?

You're only 24. How elderly can your parents be? You say you've been caregiving for them 24/7 for two years. Who financially supports you?

You need to be going to work at your age and earning. If your parents are so debilitated and elderly (though I don't see how that's biologically possible if you're only 24) that they have doctor's appointments daily and they can't get out of a car on their own, they should be in a nursing home. Or with a live-in caregiver in their home.

Have a meeting with your family to discuss what plans need to be made for your parents. You need to get a job and provide for yourself. This can't happen if you're being an unpaid 24/7 caregiver to your parents.

Someone needs to have POA or conservatorship over your parents. I would suggest the court appoints a conservator for them that is not you. You're too young at 24 to take that on and you need to start making your own life and your own living. Unless you're married or wealthy no one is going to provide for you if they die and if they're as sick as you say, that could become a reality soon enough. Your siblings sure aren't going to help.

Talk to APS and tell them about your situation and that you're leaving. They will start the state petition for conservatorship.
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Wound care can be done by a nurse from a Home Health agency as long as the wound qualifies and they are home bound, which sounds like they are. Ask their primary to send out a HH RN to assess.
Same w/ PT. Why can't they come to home?
Dental, wow, getting all of that dental work, you have to decide if it's really necessary.
I think some appointments can be trimmed down. You can do that, decide what's really important and ditch the rest.
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Clearly other family members have established boundaries as to their level of involvement. Hounding them will indeed stir up drama as they have made clear how much they will upend their lives. I gently suggest it’s time to find assisted living. It’s not fair to put such a tremendous burden on a 24 year old. This could last for decades and your life matters too.
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Seems like you need to bunch up their appointments so they have several appointments in day instead of appointments throughout the week. Schedule a morning and afternoon for doctor appointments. Ask if your parents can have physical therapy meet in the home rather than in a clinic.
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I did not see anyone talk about powers of attorney here. I would strongly suggest that you do not assume power of attorney for your parents at your age, or at least not without having a very thorough discussion with an attorney before you do. I would push both parents to sign “do not resuscitate” orders that will be in their file at the assisted-living and with the attorney, and in their medical records.

In my experience, having financial power of attorney has been even stickier. Just a heads up to be careful before you sign these types of legal documents. You are my daughter’s age, and I am deeply saddened you have been put in this position. You sound like a very strong young lady.
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kathrynsinner21 Jul 7, 2024
What problems would come with POA??
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I have not read all of the responses thoroughly, but I have been dealing with a couple of care situations on my own for a couple of years now. I wanted to say that there are professionals in your area who can help you make a plan for what to do. It might be an elder care attorney, for things like planning the finances for assisted-living, but also there’s an elder services department in your town. They can help you navigate the services available . For instance , after my mother and sister went into AL, it ended up being much more cost-effective for me to hire an outside care company to come in to do showers and take them to appointments, than to pay the AL to do these things. Also, while the ALF transportation would take them to appointments, they had to get off the bus and go into the appointments alone, and they could not navigate all of that. Both needed someone to take them into the appointments. The Christian health care service I hired was about $30 an hour, with a two hour minimum and mileage.

Anyway, I was surprised at the gaps there were at the ALF. But know that there are ways to work with these systems, and professionals who do this all day long who can help you through. I did not take advantage of them soon enough in our process, and wasted time and money, not to mention the stress. I think I was in freeze mode and just overwhelmed.
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I’m so sorry your parents are putting you through this.
You are a year younger than my son. I am in tears for you right now because you are far too young to be dealing with this situation - a situation that most of us on here who are dealing with are much much older than you.

i am 54 & taking care of my 86 yr old father who has had strokes, is wheelchair bound & refuses to go into a facility as well as refuses help from anyone besides me (I have gotten him in home care, he sends them home early & then calls me. I am putting a stop to this behavior but it is a process) I can’t imagine my son having to deal with the stress and heartache of dealing with my father. There is absolutely no way in hell I would let him. None.

Forgive me for being blunt, but your siblings are selfish a$$holes who learned their behavior from your parents.
You should not be doing all of this on your own.

my advice? And it’s not gonna be easy, but you need to send a text to your siblings explaining that you are taking a break, a deserved break with the dates you are going and then tell them that if they don’t step up and take care of (THEIR PARENTS as well) then your parents will be forced to fend for themselves.
Tell them that you have quit your job, you have done this for (however long) and they your decision is final, you are NOT open to negotiations.

i am so very sorry and I hope that you are set free soon.
JFC i am so pissed at your family for doing this to you. You should be nursing hangovers on the weekends, not your elderly parents.
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kathrynsinner21 Jul 7, 2024
Thank you for your advice. I’ve tried doing what you suggested in your post before. It created more drama with my family. Instead, I am in process of selling our family house so my parents can go into assisted living.
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I would guess they see doctors more often than really necessary or each one seeing different doctors. How many of the appointments are really necessary or are they just follow up to a previous appt? Have you asked any of the doctors if follow up appts can be handled via zoom appt without having to leave the house? If you have any drs that do not do online/zoom appts, change doctors. The other option is to find geriatric doctor/clinic that may be able to handle more specialty illnesses to eliminate special dr for this illness or another.

Not sure of their age or disability status, but if they are on Medicare and/or Medicaid or private health insurance. start trying to locate a Home Health provider in your area and during the Q&A process, find out how many services they can provide to your location. Ex: Podiatry home visits quarterly to trim toe nails. In home doctor visits. Can they take blood/urine samples to a lab for you? PT and OT staff who can come to them for therapy? Nurse coming by weekly just to check vitals is pretty much a standard care practice. Do they have wound care nurses on staff (wound care and wound vacs can be managed in the home with minimal office visits).

If someone unable to walk on their own or transfer from car to chair, they can probably get Medicare and insurance to cover the cost of medical transport via ambulance stretcher (if they can't sit up for a car ride) or wheel chair van. However, you'd probably still need to ride with them in order to be present for the doctor visit.

Once you find a Home Health Co that can handle many of the needs with home visits, talk to their primary doctor to request home health for them and YOU tell doctor which company you have chosen.

Five days a week for doctor appts is probably excessive. May be the visits are only set up just to 'see' the patient, but not really necessary. If each parent has their own dr because they 'like them or used to them', doesn't mean it has to continue. Let both parents see the same doctor when you can. And, most important, find doctors who can do many visits online/zoom with face to face only happening when required (for medicine refills, etc).

If they both have severe health problems that actually require weekly visits, talk to home health about in home palliative or hospice care so that you understand what those really mean. Will patient be removed from all meds/procedures that are intended as curative? If parent(s) getting meds/procedures already that will not cure their illness, they may be getting palliative/hospice care already to just keep them comfortable. Have a frank discussion with each doctor - can you cure what is wrong with dad? Or are we just making him comfortable? That may be the answer you need to decide if hospice/palliative care is already happening.
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i would ask your sister to help pay for in home help. If she will not participate physically maybe she will help pay for help Sounds like she can afford it with all the traveling she does.
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my2cents Jul 6, 2024
People who won't help physically usually won't offer up an $$ to help out the caretaker who is there wearing down. Yep, many of them can afford to help, but won't. They will talk about all their travels and vacations without any care in the world about providing just a little respite for the caregiver.

It comes down to being what I call - what your heart will allow you to do. My heart would NEVER have allowed me to put parent in facility care. Siblings/family members can have a touch of leather where their heart is concerned. And some have an attitude of caretaking was your choice, so when you wear out I guess parent will go to facility care like they suggested in the beginning. Almost like waiting for an "I told you so" to happen.
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Kathryn, I just read your reply to Beatty. You said that you had worked in the funeral service industry, but left to take care of them. Did you really think about the long-term cost to you, in terms of how you live your life, your future job prospects and your own old age provision?

One thing that struck me was this:

"My friends all live in other parts of the country, so I don’t see them often. I mostly just talk to them online or on zoom."

I found that really sad. If you weren't tied to your parents for the best part of the week, you would be out in the world and making new friends. You should be out there, making a life for yourself. Why is your life less important than the lives of your parents? Why does your wellbeing matter less?

Kathryn, it doesn't. You matter. Please take care of yourself.
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kathrynsinner21 Jul 7, 2024
thank you for your concern. I did think of the long term costs of this. Their care was easier to manage at the start, but then it went south.

I’d love to meet new people, but I can’t relate to them because they travel. have relationships, and have careers.
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Kathryn, please listen to the people here telling you that you need to live your own life. Most of us are much older than you, and we know that we can't sacrifice our own lives for our parents.

Your parents adopted and raised you, but that doesn't mean that you have to give up your own life in favour of theirs.
Perhaps they don't realise how selfish they are being; it can be difficult to think beyond your own needs when you become ill, or disabled, and in chronic pain. However, by saying they don't want to go into assisted living and expecting you to take care of them, they are putting their own needs ahead of yours. And so are you. You, unwittingly, are enabling them in their selfishness.

Perhaps you feel afraid of what the future holds. You don't know how they'll cope and, after having been a carer during the time you should have been getting qualifications and work experience, you might not know how you'd cope either. But you would and so would they. And the experience would be life-affirming.

Being a carer has given you many transferable skills. You will have learned time management skills, how to multitask, how to deal with people from different outside agencies, how to budget, how to work out a care regimen and administer medication (admin and management skills), and you have learned how to manage people.

You may need to learn how to advocate for yourself, just as you have been doing for your parents all this time. Building confidence and resilience would be very useful for you, as would self-assertion. These skills can be learned - through counselling, group sessions, or self-help books, podcasts and YouTube videos.

Please let your parents know that you need to live your own life. It may be that they can have carers come in, or they can try assisted living, which still gives them independence. But you can't give up your youth for them.

You don't need to know exactly what you want to do with your life when you tell them that you need to do something else. Being unsure of your next step is no reason for you to be tied down. Nevertheless, it would be good if you made a start - a part time job, an academic or vocational course, a self-help group (a back to work group, carers group, or self-assertiveness training etc.)
You can ask at your local library, local council, social services or any other organisation in your area that helps people, about anything that you can join to help you with your future.
(In my area, I went to a jobs fair, while I was on disability benefit but wanted back into work, and I found out about a charitable organisation that helped people back into work. I never would have known such things existed if I hadn't put myself out there. I'm now a teacher.)

Whatever you do, I wish you all the best.
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MiaMoor Jul 6, 2024
P.S. I'm sorry if I have made assumptions that have no basis in reality. If my advice isn't applicable to you - you are already living your own life - perhaps it would help someone else.
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It's a money game with them. Doctors (don't get me started on them) care nothing about health and well-being; they want only money to afford their mansions and Lamborghinis. If this has been going on for two years, it is not working and wasn't meant to. I'm surprised insurance is paying for two years of physical therapy.

I've had several PT sessions. What a joke. I can roll a ball across the floor and do stretches at home for FREE. Insurance only paid for three sessions.

Doctors have their place in emergencies. However, for health and well-being, find a good naturopath or holistic practitioner who is an MD. Doctors are only trained to manage symptoms with toxic poison pills and nothing more.
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sp196902 Jul 6, 2024
Totally agree about most PT. These repeat doctor visits are in my opinion a way to get guaranteed income for the dictors office. It's also the reason people who actually need to see a doctor have to wait 2 months or more to get an appointment.
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kathrynsinner21: Perhaps they'll have to cut back on some of these appointments. I personally cut back on some of mine, e.g. my ENT stated that he wanted me to come back in one week's time, but I told him to take care of the issue AT that appointment. He agreed.
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My mom is obsessed with seeing doctors. (And until he was in memory care - dragged my dad around from doc appt to doc appt too). I sometimes think it’s a badge of honor for my mother to see so many doctors. It makes her feel important. It makes her feel special that she’s such a peculiar case that everybody wants to send her to specialists and this test or that test. It gives her something to talk about. I’ve come to determine; she’s driving this.

She sees a doc and says, I can’t sleep and have migraines. Doc checks her out and says I don’t know .. you look okay to me …. So she either asks for/or he offers a specialist. “I mean, we could do an MRI or send you to a neurologist,” and she says, “yes, please!” Next up that neurologist doesn’t see anything so says … “maybe a CAT scan would tell us something … and a different type of neurologist” … I’ll take it, she says. Anything to avoid acknowledging the fact that she’s 80. Things are deteriorating and whatever diagnosis she’s chasing isn’t going to change how she feels day to day. Anything to avoid doing the things we now know have to happen to feel good - sunlight; exercise or movement, real food vs the processed garbage she loves so much.

Look at your parents and consider what’s driving this. Is it a doc who can’t find anything wrong and sends them on to the next doctor? What would happen if after all those appointments something like cancer gets found. Are they really going to have the chemo or radiation? Depending on their age - would whatever it is even get treated? my mother wants to take my dad with dementia to a new cardiologist. Why?!?? He has late stage dementia. His bad ticker isn’t the problem — and even if it is a problem, the dementia is fatal and perhaps a heart attack would take away his suffering quicker than the dementia will.

why are they seeing so many doctors? Whose idea is this? Is your mother obsessed with doctors and pills and procedures like mine is?

Have you explained to them the goal in later life is LESS DOCTOR visits .. not more? My mother isn’t important unless a doctor is giving her attention. It’s an addiction, I swear. Let’s not even get into the money spent on appts, tests, pills, procedures. Even her Medicare out of pocket is insane. She thinks it’s all “free” because she has insurance. If you can’t reason with them about how futile the appts are .. maybe you can get through with the cost angle.
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MiaMoor Jul 6, 2024
That's an interesting perspective that I had never considered. I can now imagine that a number of people might like the attention they get when having to go for specialist appointments.
Although, the OP's parents both have diabetes with the attendant health issues that accompany that disease, especially in old age. They're just putting way too much onto her.
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Do you go to the appointments with them? Actually listen to the followup and the setting up of the next appointment?

If not, you should. It is possible that your parents are initiating the request for additional appointments because it is a way to get out of the house and go do something else.

Don't depend upon the doctor's paperwork as it is a summary of the visit, but usually does not include all the other details that determine whether the followup visit is necessary versus optional.

I would suggest that you enroll them in senior day care maybe 3 times a week. That means that the PT and doctors appointments can only happen on the other 2 days and you would get some of your life back on the other 3 days.

The other thing is to start logging the results of their appointments in a book, one book for each. It is possible that the reasons why they are going to the doctor are being confused between the 2. One might say they have problem x and the other one, in their discussion, might indicate they also have problem x, when in reality they had problem x years ago. Included in the book would be everything you heard them say, so that you can ensure that the appointment was for the right reason and discussed the correct ailment. Think of it as a health log for each parent.

Good luck!
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kathrynsinner21 Jul 7, 2024
I go to all the appointments with them. Hence why I had to quit my job just to attend all these appointments. Most of them are PT, dental work, and wound care. We’ve had in home care for PT and wound care but my parents didn’t find them ‘satisfactory’ go figure. So alas the appointments keep coming.
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You have a tough load to carry for such a young person. Can your parents afford $30.00/ hour for an outside care giver to take them to appointments? This would free up some of your time. Companies like Senior helpers are 30.00-35.00 an hour
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I agree that sometimes, doctors want you to return for follow up visits that can be delayed for a few more weeks. If you can, try to bundle 2-3 appointments on the same day if possible (esp, if the providers are in the same facility). Maybe have your parents be seen by a geriatric healthcare group that might provide care for multiple elderly health challenges; these groups tend to have in-home services.
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I hope you are scheduling appointment on your own time and not them scheduling them.
Wound care can be done in the home. Ask their doctor about it
I am wondering if PT is the answer. Have they plateaued? Maybe they need someone who privately does excersise in the home. It sound like they do not do the required work daily and just wait for PT. If this is the case, then Palliative care might be an answer.
They are vicitims of their own bodies and the things they did to cause them to have chronic illiness. You are a victim of their will. If you were not there then they have to solve their own problems and change where they live or hire their own caregivers. Yes they can hire caregiving assistants who will drive them.
It is time you put on your own big boots and start backing away. Your are grown up which means you should be on your own. Making your own way into he world and getting out of their home. Stop being a slave and if you feel guilt, then get counselling.
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Have their PCP prescribe the PT in the home and also the wound care in the home.

Schedule other appointments remote--over the cell phone by video.
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Igloocar Jul 6, 2024
In general, Medicare and insurance will not pay for PT in the home if the person can get to the therapy. By "get to therapy," I mean physically able to leave the home. Not having transportation is not a reason.
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I think the best way I'm handling it now , is realizing, all the complaining I do, there will be a day that I will be very sad that I have no appointments to take Mom to anymore, because she will be gone
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Im2Young4This Jul 5, 2024
She is 24 years old. That is too young to give up her life for them. It's sad to think that they are expecting (my summation) this of her.
I wish that I had an answer for her
and I hope that someone on here does.
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Sorry to be personal, but what plans do you have for your future? Do you work now? Or study? Are able to go out with friends & have relationships?

Or does helping run the houshold & care for your parents absorb all / most of your time?

I sincerely hope there is room for your life too.
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kathrynsinner21 Jul 1, 2024
I worked in the funeral industry before I left to care for my parents at home. Now, I work retail on the weekends. My friends all live in other parts of the country, so I don’t see them often. I mostly just talk to them online or on zoom.
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You can cut back on these appointments. With my mom, her doctors were always saying things like "come back in 3 months" or 4 or 6. For NO reason. I stopped making those appointments after I saw what an utter and complete waste of time most of them were. Instead, I started making appointments when they were NEEDED. Not just to "check in".

There are PT services that can come to the home. Do that ASAP. I have used Genesis' Vitality to You. The patient does not need to be homebound as Home Health Services requires.

At your very young age, you need to start living your own life. You are not their slave. Your brother is right to say no. Your parents would be much better off, especially for you, if they were in AL.

Also can try to get appointments on the same day when you really have to go to one. Really, time to get working on your own life. Do you have a job? If not, that's a good place to start. Or with taking some college courses to build a path to a nice career.

Best of luck.
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When my parents, with 15 or so apts a month some months, moved in with me, I asked the Dr here what HE could take over. He is a geriatric Dr and turns out he could take over most of the visits except for the eye Dr and later the cardiologist. Have their dr get them set up for home PT and OT, and that alone should help. And it is past time to let the older sibling know you need help, or you will have to move on/go to school/ whatever. Unless they travel ALL year this is doable, maybe not what they want, but what they NEED to do! You need to be looking ahead at your future, and not be possibly unpaid help. Good luck!
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Kathryn, perhaps an easy (and appropriate) way to get your head around this a bit more would be to send a letter (yes a letter in the post) to your older sibling (sister?) to make your own contact. There is no need to wait for a contact made through your parents. Ask what her own experiences were before she left home. It seems that she has made quite a clear break, with you and with her parents. She would have been around for the discussions about whether and when to adopt you, and might have experience of your parents' expectations when their health was not so far advanced. If the sibling is a brother, that’s an interesting twist but still worth a look back into the past.

If your parents aren’t keen on this contact, it doesn’t mean that you don’t make the contact. Why shouldn’t you? If the three of them don’t get on, a contact doesn’t mean that you are planning on ‘ganging up on the parents’. Your sibling is one of your very limited number of family members, you really ought to be in touch.
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kathrynsinner21 Jun 30, 2024
I have a brother who refuses to help in any of this. He says he is not responsible for their care. He has his own life. He’s visited a few times and complained each visit when I asked him for help.
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When it became difficult to take my husband to an appointment, I found out that our medical practice of choice could provide care in our home. The nurse practitioner came for a visit every month for three months and then the doctor came on the fourth month. They also provided lab work, x-rays, vaccinations, etc. It made life so much easier. There is also a health service called Dispatch Health (DispatchHealth.com) in many cities. They come to your home and provide many services. They bill your insurance company for the visit.
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LostinPlace Jul 4, 2024
Hi Grannie9,

I was intrigued by your post about DispatchHealth. It sounded wonderful. Then I went online to TrustPilot.com for reliable reviews from their customers. The majority of their customers felt abused by DispatchHealth's "fraudulent" billing practices, among other complaints about how the company operates.

So I'd recommend that people tread carefully before engaging DispatchHealth for in-home health care.
Unfortunately.
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You need to work for 10 years in order to get money after age 65. You need to reevaluate your situation.
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You need to look at these doctor visits. The PT can be done in home as well as the woundcare. Tell their doctor to order it. That its too much getting 2 wheelchair bound people out of the house. Maybe there are exercises you can do with them to cut down on PT visits.

Your parents are not being unfair. At 24 you should be finding a way to support yourself. At 32 you need to be earning a decent salary so you get a decent amount of Social Security.
Your parents, with diabetes, will probably lose a limb. That will make even harder to care for them. Diabetes effects every organ in the body. Especially heart and kidneys. Their care will be more and more. If I was caring for them, I would make sure I received the house in the Will. That there was money set aside so when they are gone I would have money to start a new life. Your future is important.
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MargaretMcKen Jun 30, 2024
JoAnn, did you mean 'your parents are not being fair'? You wrote 'unfair', which doesn't chime with the rest.
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Kathryn, I think this may anger you, but perhaps someone needs to say it. You were adopted when your parents were in their 50s, and you have one sibling who is 25 years older than you and largely absent. The way you write makes it seem possible that your parents have brought you up to think that you are responsible for their care. At worst, that is why they adopted you.

Your parents certainly have some health issues. However the way it reads is that these are not overwhelmingly heavy. In fact if they did require an around-the-clock carer, you would not be able to do it for two people. You wouldn’t be able to take them out three times a week for serious physiotherapy, even if it was 'yes, a help'. You are doing what they ask. It would be a very very good idea if you could get an independent assessment of their care needs, in order to see if what you are doing is the best for them and for you. This level of care time commitment is not something that anyone should just drift into, at the cost of writing off their own needs at the age of 24.

Why not get an independent assessment? Not just from one health professional, because of course they will say that what you are doing is a good idea for the part of the problem that they deal with. What you really need is an assessment of the total situation.
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These folk needs assistance, sure. At present you are it. Living with them in this Assisted Living for Two - with staff of?

What other people come to help them during the week? What services to they have to help out?eg Meals delivery, housecleaning, personal care help?

Mom & Dad can 'age in place' if they can arrange enough support for themselves. But doesn't sound like they can. Sounds more like they are very dependant & in denial.

Make plans for a weekend away. Go visit a friend or something. Sometimes the physical space can help with mental clarity. To see the bigger picture.
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If one or both of them have chronic, serious medical conditions, they should qualify for palliative care. One of the goals is to decrease doctor appointments and a provider will come to the house, arrange for in-home lab draws, etc. Also, request a home health referral from their primary care physician for nursing/wound care and physical therapy. Be sure to request a social work referral for community resources because you can’t continue this alone.
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