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If you are dads durable power of attorney and medical power of attorney, and his Dr's have his mental decline notated in his records, then you should be able to get dad placed in a memory care facility, whether he wants to go there or not. It's really not up to him anymore, as it's clear he's not able to make his own rational decisions. You have to do what is first, in the best interest of you, your fiance, and your son, and second what is in the best interest of dad. Things are only going to get worse and you really are not equipped to deal with all that his care does and will entail. You've done the very best you could for the last 4 years, and now it's time to let those that are trained in caring for folks with mental decline take care of dad. You cannot continue with the way things are going. I believe you already know that.

Oh and another thing, if dad ends back in the hospital for any reason, you can refuse to take him back home, stating that you just can't care for him anymore, and they will have no choice but to place him in a facility. I believe you can also do that by taking him to the ER(it's called an ER dump), and saying the same thing, that you just can't care for him in your home, and they(the hospitals social worker)will have to find a facility to place him in. Wishing you the best, and please take care of yourself.
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AlvaDeer Nov 2020
The problem here I think is that the doctors are calling this "depression" which would mean Dad can say what he likes. Clearly it is so much more. You and I sure do agree that the ER Dump may be the ONLY way out of this, and I hate that.
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Kryste, I think it will be very very difficult to place someone with as many physical and mental deficits as your Dad has. That's the truth. You can imagine the competition now for beds.
We often talk about the "ER Dump" here on forum. It is our great controversy. Is it good? Right? Desperate but necessary? Awful? The only thing I can say, as an old nurse, is that there are times that it is the ONLY THING THAT WORKS.
As you have already proven to yourself over time, and can continue to prove to yourselves as long as you need to, there is no help for this forthcoming. There are times, esp. after anesthesia in the elders that there is no coming back. I highly suspect there is more going on here than depression. And what is going on isn't really the questions. The likely and awful truth may be that your father may be in a condition until his passing that requires medications to keep him somewhere hopefully out of anxiety, but still in the waking world. That alone is going to be almost impossible for doctors and staff. For a family? This is also impossible.
I know if you have been here you understand what the ER Dump is. It basically is trying everything else and coming up against a brick wall, then calling Emergency Services for transport to an ER. Dad should have a whole workup from a urinalysis to exam to neuro psyc, but the important thing is that on admission you make it clear your father cannot return to your home. You will have to tell them that you can no longer physically nor mentally take care of your father in your home and he cannot come back to it. They will call the social worker and he or she will try EVERYTHING to convince you otherwise from "no beds" to "covid" to "we can get help" to "we can make this work". Basically they will try anything and everything to get you to take Dad home.
As a nurse I feared lower extremities and vascular surgeries more than any other; I saw more very bad outcomes than any others. Your poor Dad has ended here thought no fault of his own, no fault of yours, and it is a tragedy. However, it isn't one that you and your son and your fiance should have to pay for with decades of your life, and it could destroy you young family.
It will take a while to consider all this, to speak with your fiance and others, to try to figure if you have tried everything else. And then I think you may end desperate enough that you have to at least consider what I have said. The Social Worker will find placement. It is what they do. She may have to even call a judge and get temporary guardianship for you (they can do this in minutes. For you it would be a lawyer, a court fight, 10,000, a loss and debt for life, but a social worker can wave a want and make it happen).
I am so sorry. For you ALL, and especially your poor Dad. Not everything can be fixed. Not everything can end with a feel good moment.
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Kryste Nov 2020
Thank you for being honest. Dad had always been one to never let anything keep him down and this has shaken me to my core. He's always been the strong shoulder I could lean on, the prankster who made everyone laugh, the person who taught me everything he knew because he "didn't want his daughter to have to be dependent on anyone". I read the answers on here and spoke with my fiancé, we've decided to get a nanny cam to record the episodes- one reason is for proof of what is happening outside of the short videos I've already shown the doctors and the other is for our own protection, especially if this continues as it has been.
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