My husband is insisting that his father move in with us. FIL has parkinsons (stage 3) and is 76 yrs old. I have my own health issues (not debilitating) and feel very strongly that I do not want to take on the care giving role. We are in our late 50's, kids are grown and on their own. This is supposed to be OUR time, while we are still able to enjoy life. Husband has done NO research as to what it's going to take caring for someone who'll end up bed ridden and needing 24 hr care. What I'm asking of this forum: Please respond with honest answers as to what it's like caring for a parent with limited mobility, and/or caring for a parent who needs 24 hr assistance (which will be the case in a few years) so I can have my husband read some honest input. We both work, husband has a very stressful job that often runs overtime. I know husband would feel guilty if he had to say no, even if the stress affected his own health. I've mentioned that FIL could out live him, then what would I do? Help!
Tell your husband to visit some facilities for Parkinson patients and see how the patients behave and what the staff do to take care of them. Ask if he's willing to turn his home into a nursing home and change his career into a caregiver 24/7.
Then try a week end with Dad in your own home. Be prepared tho to watch him constantly as he is not accustom to your home will be a high fall risk. This will give you both more of an understanding of his needs & the numerous modifications you will have to make to your home. IE: hospital bed, commodes, hand rails, shower chair, ramps, dietary needs...the list goes on & on.....
I was prepared (or so I thought!) & willing to move into my Moms house post stroke to take care of her as she is my best friend & made so many sacrifices for me over the years. I could count on her for ANYTHING & still can to this day. Thankfully she is still mobile & able to toilet & feed herself but is now showing signs of ALZ. It is "the best of times & the worst of times" on so many levels.
There are days I wonder how got myself into this situation & whatever made me think I could do it. Those are her "bad days" which are now outnumbering her good days. It is an emotional roller coaster for sure.
The best to you both...
At first she was pretty independent, so a few years were not so bad. She has her own Independent Living area and I was able to manage working from home. After a few years, things began to progress
In retrospect this has been the most difficult time of my life and that includes marriage, financial and so on. It also brought out who was actually someone who cared and who wasn't. This included family. We are early 50s and feel like our lives have come to a screeching halt. If you can swing a caregiver to come and help or think you can get some kind of help lined up, it may be do-able. I thought I would have help from the nearby sibling- but haven't seen hyde nor hair unless its time for him to pick up a Christmas or birthday check. The narrow road is always hard - Look into all your options. Maybe his Dad could give a try at a local assisted living place. He may even NOT want to come live with you Sounds like you are worried it may all end up on you with your husband working so much. If not, you would prob have to oversee things either way. Make sure he is aware that the care eventually may become 24/7 . Caregivers/sitters for PD usually charge between 16 and 24$ an hour here. You didn't mention his health overall- which may affect his Parkinsons progression. My mom was in fantastic shape and exercising into her mid 80's- While I m sure that has helped, she still needs LOTS of help with mobility now as she is in the late stages of it, which now includes the dementia and the hallucinations. Most people on here have been honest and there are some days where I am extremely frustrated and resentful, and other days when I think- Oh this isnt that bad. I got this.
It's a lot and I mean A LOT of work. Be prepared to give up your "self" . That said- I couldn't live with myself if I didn't try....so., even though it has been very very hard, no regrets in the end.
As he got sicker, the stiffness in his limbs made moving him a 3 person job. He was a big man, and thus added to the strain. Seeing my once healthy, incredibly intelligent daddy turn into a one syllable speaking, 24/7 bedridden invalid was horrible.
You don't want to hear the sugar coated "oh what a blessing to have daddy with us"--it usually isn't anything but heartache and depression. I WISH mother had allowed him to be placed in a SNF where he would have certainly had better care and more visitors.
Just my experience.
Besides meeting with a medical professional experienced with Parkinson's, I recommend meeting with one or two people who are full-time caregivers near you and asking a lot of practical questions about how they set up their house, cost, and what their life is like. Unless you are very clear that both of you want to take this on, don't do it.
Raven88 - please read his/her response again, and to your husband, too.
Remind your husband that your marriage is a democracy where both voices are heard. No one has power over the other.
Case in point;
My husband just started at a new gym. He's become friendly with all the guys there.
We'd like to take a little vacation in May and he told me one of the gym guys could take care of our house, dogs and cats. WHAT? ARE YOU CRAZY? You don't even know these guys.
HIS IDEA DIED RIGHT THERE! When one of the couple says "No", even if it SEEMS like a good idea to the other, the answer is NO!
What if you wanted a Bengal tiger cub as a pet? He would say "NO" and you would NOT get your tiger cub.
The person who says "no" has the final say.
It's also not fair for him to ASSUME you would do ANY of the work, especially since you are against the idea.
Find a nice AL facility that has a Complete Care or Skilled Nursing section for when FIL needs more care. Visit him 2-3 times a week.
You will save your physical health, mental health, marriage, self esteem, friendships and finances with him in a facility. Being in a facility doesn't mean he's not loved-actually you are free to do lots of nice things for him if you aren't bound to him by a ball and chain.
My other experience with PD was an older brother, who first began getting lost driving when he was in his late 70's, and he was a person who never got lost! His wife passed about that time, and he cared for her reasonably well, with a son and DIL close at hand. When he couldn't live alone, his son got a condo just down the street from his place, and found a young woman caregiver who loved older people and was very good with him. Eventually his son moved him with them, with the caregiver with him days as well. His memory did fail, with odd periods of clarity, and he pretty well recognized family. I live quite a ways away, so wasn't there often, but he always recognized me. Fortunately, he had always been an interesting person with a great sense of humor, which he kept until he couldn't speak, and his DIL said he was always good company even if the conversations were unusual. On his last days, he was completely bedridden and stiff; couldn't move at all. He was fortunate to have a son and DIL who were themselves retired but in reasonably good health, with helpful grandchildren close, a daughter within visiting distance, a great caretaker, and a small town of nice folks.
PD is a very challenging condition to deal with; it depends a lot on how it develops and how the patient responds.
#1 Modification of home for elder
#2 Daytime nurse for when husband is at work
#3 The need to prepare for elder care
#4 Bedside commode
#5 Meal/nutrition plan
#6 Medication retrieval and maintenance
#7 Mobility issues
#8 PCP visits and transport
#9 Specialty doc visits and transport
#10 Diapering, if required
#11 Incontinence
#12 Night terrors
#13 Caregiver respite
#14 Date night for husband and wife
#15 Caregiving burnout
#16 Mail transference and maintenance (Medicare insurance, etc.)
At my husband's suggestion -- I didn't want to -- we took my mother in. She was 94 with dementia & had limited mobility. Oh my goodness, we thought we were prepared & we were not! She was with us for 2 months and no one slept. Did I mention I had help? We covered 7am-7pm in 2 6-hr shifts per day -- an aide for 2 of them, 2 CNA DILs each had 4, & I had the remaining 4. That left 7pm-7am which we didn't know until Mom moved in that she didn't sleep most of that time. As a result, none of us slept during that time either. Even with all that help, time alone with my husband was non-existent. And that doesn't even cover the increase in food and utilities or the constant eating or the washer/dryer being used 2x/day just for her because of her accidents or the hair appointments or the hygiene "discussions" (battles) or the clothes that she would change at every opportunity or ..... well, the list goes on & on. Going to the grocery store was a tactical exercise. Those 2 months completely changed family dynamics that we are still trying to recover from, and it was 3+ years ago.
Fast forward to 2 months ago when hubby suggested his mother move in with us because his father passed & she can't live alone. Never mind that she moved in with his 2 sisters (who live together) & they can't deal with it. They both are home all day, get everything delivered, & are having difficulty. I reminded him that since it is his mother, HE would be the primary caregiver, with me assisting. LOL -- the expression on his face was priceless.
Everyone thinks it will be like on the TV show The Waltons. My experience is that it is not.
I did this on my own, had I been in a relationship with someone, we would no longer be together. It is mostly the Parkinson's related Dementia that destroys. Luckily my family did not have Parkison's however Mom had early onset Dementia and is now in final stages. (over 9 yrs of her losing herself).
Dad passed at 97 yrs young from a fall. Auntie is 94 yrs young and still with me, many health issues and Mom has been in a Memory Care Community for 9 months and just made 98 yrs. These three people became my world and I can not imagine not having them in my life, yet would I do it the same way again...ABSOLUTELY NOT.
There are many things in life that are extremely difficult, this tops any and all!!!
I called in Hospice for Mom when I felt her time was close. It ended up that they saw me as the person that needed immediate support. They felt I was ready to collapse from exhaustion, frustration and that I was in way over my head. ( At this time my Dad had passed and my Aunt not being in physical shape to help, left it to lil ole me).
It will be out of Love for Your Father, Yourself and your Wife that you find him a Safe and Comfortable Community; for him to call home. Oh...it hurts, I still lose it when I think someone else is caring for my Mom, I have come to realize it was so much better for her in the long run.
Yet, another thought in ending...I was told that I was more prone to the disease if I remained under the stress of caregiving a family member with Dementia. It is a very ugly disease, it just tears you apart.
I am so sorry
If so, has he now changed his mind or is he going to give up his job?
Hugs
You wrote :"Men are so inconsiderate"
That is an ugly generalization about men. How would you like it if a man said the same about women or used any other disparaging word to refer to all women?
What you said is not even true about the OP's husband. He is very considerate of his dad's needs, but he is ignorant about the challenge that they will face and the sacrifice that they will have to make.
Most of us didn't know either until we stepped into the caregiver's role.
For us, it is manageable. You have to take into account how strong you are and how much your dad weighs. My mom is at 115 lbs which is a blessing. Also, both of us are athletes. We can do the heavy lifting without issue. This has made our marriage stronger. We are a solid team. Both of us totally onboard with this. I look at my husband with more love and more admiration than ever before seeing all he does for my mom. Not only that, but is is gentle and charming with her. My mom is appreciates and adores him. She says please and thank you. She is so happy and excited each time he comes home from work. She knows he comes at 7pm and starts watching for him to arrive home. The respect and love she has for him is earned.
We were dating when my mom was originally diagnosed. I quit my job to stay with her full-time. He married me two years into this. She hated him and was against our marriage. Now, she loves him. He patience and gentle nature won her over. She knows her place is with us and we take her with us everywhere we go.
It has been a good journey for us.