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Your caught in a trap and it only gets worse . You need to make a decision to move out or you will be stuck there for years dealing with head trips . Can she move to AL ? I would consult her primary care physician and ask for advice . People don’t realize the extent of responsibility in caring for others . Older people seem to diminish after a loved one has parted . Maybe she needs a dog . Go find a apartment if you value your life and freedom .
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Doingmybest101 Jan 2022
Can't imaging getting her a dog. In a couple of months, her daughter will be the new owner of a dog whether she likes it or not.
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I’ve been there. I cared for my parents until the end of their lives in their place, but I needed breaks and took them.

Go on the getaway. Absolutely. Plan the next trip as soon as you get back.

Take her on some trips or day trips too so she feels valued.

As for the emotional guilt trip, she will be totally fine. She may enjoy the break from you as well. You may feel badly when you hear her tell her friends she had a great weekend, but just chuckle and enjoy that she was happy.

You won’t relax, however, unless you have someone in place that can step into your shoes and check on her.

if you hire someone to be there the entire time, it will be worth every penny. If she is fine living alone a babysitter would be sufficient. If you don’t know who to call, you could call a nursing school or CNA certification school’s placement office and send a flyer for their bulletin board. This experience would also be resume building for them.

Putting her in a nursing home or plucking her out of her environment would be disorienting and could cause setbacks. She’s been through a lot of terrible change, so do let her stay at home in her familiar surroundings. This is a positive step toward emotional independence for her.

If she cannot stay at home safely alone, you must absolutely hire or arrange for someone or you could return to disaster.

If you simply don’t have the money, have friends or relatives help you out. You could exchange services such as childcare or pet sitting.

if she can safely, 100%, stay alone, have friends drop in to ensure she gets meds and meals. Ask them to text you a photo when they stop by.

You will be so happy and relaxed!
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Candyapple Jan 2022
I love love ur response. Ur very special. We need more responses like this and ppl like u. One u love taking care of others as well as urself. This is love. Looking out for others. U want all to be happy. I’m that way as well God Bless u!. If when I’m ever in this frame of mind I pray in Jesus Christ name that I will have ppl in my life like u to look out for me. I know God will Bless u as well. Have a wonderful life.
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You definitely need to get away with your husband. it is important for your health. Find a way for someone to come and be with your mother or for her to go to a place. With early dementia can be hazardous for her to be alone, Stove left on, leaving the house or anything of a hundred issues may arise.
You are important to your husband and vice versa.
Take time to care for yourself and you will be happier. Let her complain to others, eventually, they will understand, if not who cares, they are not having your mother live with them.
Trust me I know, when we go away it is like heaven for my wife and me. 8 years of dad here has taken a toll on us. Getaway ASAP and relax for a weekend.
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If you're there to help her, you should not leave her alone and when did you start letting her dictate what you can and can't do? She needs to be in assisted living/ memory care and you need to move out into your own place and sell hers.
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Myownlife Jan 2022
Wow, slow down! They feel it's safe to leave her. We don't know all the details. They should easily be able to go for 2 days to themselves. And you can't just force someone to live somewhere else and sell her home.
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You should take a longer break. I want to go oin a cruise but it would be the first time I did it without my wife. She has advanced dementia. I just don't have the courage to do it.
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Myownlife Jan 2022
Oh, so sorry. But as someone who loves cruising, go on the cruise. There are lots of solo cruisers, some single, some not. It is so peaceful and enjoyable and when you return, you'll be so relaxed.
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I am in a very similar situation. My mother who’s 76 moved in with my family since my dad passed of cancer last year. She also refused to see a doctor about her dementia until I just literally brought her there and didn’t give her a choice. Even after the dementia / mild Alzheimer’s diagnosis, she still doesn’t believe anything is wrong. Moving on….

My mother makes my husband and I feel guilty EVERY TIME we leave the house as we took her car away 6 months ago (after a terrible car accident relating to her dementia). She constantly says “if I just had a car….I wouldn’t need to rely on you!”. We do include her in grocery store store runs and other smaller car trips. We bring her to our summer home on a lake (the entire summer)…yet when we try to go to a date night dinner, she invites herself and says we are being “mean” for not including her. We do stand our ground as we have to with her…..but sometimes the guilt is too much and I give in. We have a trip to St. Thomas in March for ourselves and we have decided we will not tell her until the day before we leave. My oldest son is here at the house so he will be here if she needs groceries or help. I am comfortable leaving my mom for up to 5-6 hours alone but it’s RARE.

I would suggest you do not mention your trip to your mother until she is on a “need to know” basis. Make sure you have a family member or friend who can look in on her or better yet…or have them sleep there with her. Don’t feel guilty!!!! You deserve a life as I am sure she had one with her husband when she was your age. My grandparents never lived with my parents….so my mom has no idea how she is coming across …..but honestly I am not sure it would make a difference. When they are older with dementia and lost a loved one….they can become quite selfish and don’t realize how they come across. Good luck to you both and please try to rid yourself of guilt and enjoy your trip! You deserve your happiness too. In order to be a good caregiver, you have to make time for yourself.
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Candyapple Jan 2022
Good Response. At least they have someone to look after her. It’s not like there leaving her alone. Or just giving up on her. I say for ppl mental they should have the elderly see a social worker or counselor I believe this would help talking it out. Or wherever cities ppl reside it have families meet up so the elderly can become friends that way.
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Absolutely not. U go on ur trip. Mom with get over it. She’s being selfish. She maybe scared. Is it possible the friends she’s gabbing/ yapping to can take turns sitting with her keeping her company until u both come back. Please tell the ppl she’s talking to to talk some since to her. Tell them u know what ur doing is manipulating and it’s not nice. There doing there best so u be ur best. It could be worse and they put her in a nursing home. That she should be grateful God Blessing her with family whom wants her but she gotta give them a break from time to time. I say go but plz make sure u have ppl that can check in on her and enjoy yourselves. U 2 deserve it.🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣☕️🥓👀😇🥳😎🤩🫂🫂🫂🫂🫂🤦🏼🤦🏼‍♂️👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨😍👍🏿🙏🏽👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨
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You should move out. Theres no way in hell id be taking care of her while shes still able to function on her own. Dementia is a long hard road of insanity and id stay away from it as long as possible until its impossible. Do whatever you want to do right now if she doesn't like it to bad.
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On ur spare time find other family members who r going through the same things also find in ur community places where u can take mom to meet and greet this way she will have friends so I can do ur thing. Start in ur community a meet and greet or maybe a center where elderly meet but one family member must be accompanied depending on there circumstances
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When I read this sort of post, I am reminded of kids who have separation anxiety and don't want to go to school. Make arrangements FOR YOUR TRIP, make arrangements for someone to check on her ( give the person checking your contact arrangement and you mother the the contact's number. Sweetly explain you might be out of cell range and you want someone who will definitely be in contact, hire an answering service briefly if necessary), and be matter of fact. Do it early and often as the saying goes. When you stop reacting, she will stop manipulating. Just say sweetly, "Yup, I am selfish.:
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Guilt??? Nuts!!!

Kindly, and I stumble on this score too, with your mom's short term memory, how do you expect her to remember that she agreed to wanting you to get away. Come on.

My husband looks great and after 15 years of bizarro world I rarely but still forget and ask for his opinion, like an idiot.

How do you know she is telling her friends that she is disgusted? Do they come and tell you? Or, do you hear her saying this, say on a phone?

Some people are simple, and maybe with their own challenges. Or they don't have much of a repetoire of responses, or perhaps innocently, for lack of your type of experience/situation, and with good intentions, may think they are being helpful. Or maybe it's just another tentacle from the manipulation monster.

First of all, if these people are not helping to care for your mom or are kind friends they don't count.

I'm not suggesting that we are here to raise the world, but a little eye opening reality may paive the way to a better future with these sideline commentators.

Put your hand tenderly on their arm (or not), smile, and with great sympathy look into their eyes and say, "I'm sorry, I didn't know you weren't aware that mom has dementia". And then knit your eyebrows together with a slightly more serious look, still smiling, and barely tilt your head to gently indicate that you are considering that they too may be pitifully challenged.

You wrote, "I feel horrible for wanting to spend quality time with my husband".
Shame on you. For this you should feel guilty. You owe it to your marriage.

You're a good person who is feeling bad and sorry for your mom, and wrongly selfish, except to your husband.

Many people let their in-laws come into their home. Yes, yes it a blessing, but if you gave those kindhearted people a billion dollars don't you think that they, including you, wouldn't find other arrangements. Give your spouse a break.

In our world schedules are a must. Scheduling fun time is critical.
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You must plan and take your short trip. It might be wise to have someone look in on your Mom a couple times a day. You have to control your own situation. Your
Mother is likely still grieving in her own way and does not want to be alone- but
she will have to accept it.
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You have gone above and beyond by taking her into your home and you probably did not realize how this would soon affect your life in a negative way - but you are seeing it happen now. You have every right and reason - without the slightest doubt - to take time off for YOU and do things for YOU. This is YOUR TIME of life - do not let anyone or anything take that away from you. She is scared, wants to be in control, and the center of attention. She obviously has dementia and is refusing to cooperate in her care - and she is blaming you for the outcome. SHE is the problem - NOT YOU. She is being selfish and does not care about anything except her - don't fall into that trap. Make sure someone is available to care for her and set boundaries and make her very aware what they are. YOU GO AND HAVE A WONDERFUL TIME - WHY WOULDN'T YOU GO? Have fun.
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Riley2166 Jan 2022
And start thinking about placing her before her dementia really harms you and your marriage - do not wait. Dementia people do NOT belong in normal families.
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Go. Find someone to provide for you mom's needs while you're gone and GO. I have let my duty to my mother to rob me of so much - one is a trip to France to visit my son when he was living/working there in 2018/19. I will forever regret not doing it when I had the opportunity. I have been riding my mother's guilt trips for the past 16 years as I have cared for her. As your mother ages, her level of care will most likely increase and it will be more difficult if not impossible to leave her for any amount of time. Go and enjoy and pay no attention to her guilt trips.
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The reason why you moved in to your parents’ house – to help Mother care for dying Dad – has passed. Don’t just drift into something completely different – caring indefinitely for Mother. You need to go back to square one and make a new plan about where you live and where Mother lives.

Already at some level she resents you being there. Fair enough, it’s her house, she’s lost control, and you don’t (and can’t) do exactly what she wants. Telling lies about you to people you both know is going to ruin a whole lot of relationships. Use your time away with your husband to think seriously about your own future. Be grateful that things have gone bad first, so that you can both enjoy yourselves and also be realistic about the future.
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You need to go on this time away with your husband. But as others have said, plan for some kind of overlook while you are gone.

How old is she and what type of dementia symptoms? And you say short term memory problems. Are you POA for her? Or is she responsible for herself?

I brought my mom over from another town to live with me about 4-5 years ago. She is 96 now. A couple of years ago, I was going back and forth between her house and mine to clear it out and get it ready to sell. The day I returned home, we were sitting in the living room.

I had found old letters from my dad (her deceased husband )from many years ago when he was overseas in the service..she was reading one, an hour after I got home, and something happened. She wound up having a heart attack and stroke, and spent a few weeks from hospital to rehab. (She wound up recovering totally... very lucky.)

What I realized was that although I had been preparing her medications in the dispensers for awhile, I had depended on her remembering to take her medications. She had very high blood pressure problems. I figured that she must have forgotten to take them and probably had a stroke. She had seemed to have minor short term memory problems, and I just had never thought about the possibility of that happening.

So, just saying, think about that in your planning time away for yourselves. And does she know not to answer door for strangers? Or not to give information to strangers over the phone?

Prepare, and go and have fun!
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First off make sure you have someone to check in on her three times a day.

Secondly inform her you are married to your husband not to her. You need time alone.

If she does not like that just inform her you will be looking for a pernament place to live and will visit her whenever.
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I hope you went ahead and took the trip. As for your mother going back and forth between yes and no. That could very well be part of her dementia. I wouldn't leave her alone though. My thoughts are have some friends or family stay w her while you two are gone. Being caregivers is a tough job, you must carve out some way some how some time for you and your hubby. Even under the best circumstances caregivers can easily become burnt out and everyone ends up w feelings that they wish they did not have. As for being a senior brat, I wouldn't label her that unless she has a history of being wishy washy and manipulative way b4 all of this happened. A person w dementia (at any stage) can be filled w fear. (whether they admit it or not) On a side note, Since you are living in her house, that could embolden her to think she has the right to have you and your husband to bend to her bidding. But that depends upon what type of relationship the three of you have had up to this point. Also, if at some point she really does need to be in a facility of some sort, look out for jealouse resentment. And what I mean by that is, Mom feeling a jealous resentment that hey you helped take care of dad, Why can't you take care of me attitude. My heart goes out to you all. I hope that the 3 of you can work things out w minimum drama.
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Do it now.because you're us 3 years ago now his mom is totally bed ridden now.and Alzheimer's.we can't leave her.have a friend check on her once a day.
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you have been doing for her and you are a good daughter - you also need to take those 2 days and do for you - you are a good wife! stop feeling guilty, i know it's difficult but you need your sanity
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sunflwrluv: Imho, you should go on this pre planned trip, which is just 45 minutes away.
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It's only 2 days. Can you get someone to stay with her? (relative, or friend would be best) or to check on her while you are gone? Make sure she knows the person or has a chance to meet them before you go. Whoever is checking on her can call you if they feel there is something to report. You could agree to call Mom yourself, (IF you think it would help) but if you do, it will probably bring on a torrent of complaints so be prepared to stand your ground.

Of course, you don't need to apologize to anyone for wanting a couple of days away with your husband. And your mother even approved it, once. Don't worry about what she says or what she tells her friends (who may well understand your need to get away, even if they don't say so... and if they don't...so what?).

Actually, this brief separation from Mom may be a way to prepare for the possibility of her needing assisted living at some time in the future. Hope you can relax and do something pleasant with your hubby on this "mini' vacation.
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TouchMatters Jan 2022
It needs to be two days every other week or every month.
Of course she can get someone to stay with mommy. Mommy resists which is why daughter needs to take control, right?
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Go, Go Go!
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Familiar story. It’s so hurtful especially if she’s putting you in a bad light to her friends who will know it isn’t true. I’m sure you would not leave your mom unless everything is in place and she is well cared for. Seems the elderly become self centred and will put you on a guilt trip to get their own selfish way . Go away and do not feel guilty and if all goes well, go away for the whole week next time. . Enjoy. X
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Go and enjoy life!!!! Don’t have any second thoughts!!!
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"Am I wrong for wanting this?"
This question tells me a lot. I believe that you need to take more control over the situation. What I hear you saying is that it is 'okay for you and your husband to expend the needed energy supporting/helping your mother and that you do not deserve (OR NEED) time outs / relaxation / resets. You do. Not only do you deserve it, it is required to keep going and function -- to take care of yourself and then to be able to care for your mother.

* Your mother may never be content or 'happy' with your support or ways you support / extend yourself.
* While her dementia may be mild or at beginning stages, she sounds like she has a lot of anger and perhaps 'prior' ability to manipulate you/r husband to do what she wants you to do (hence you asking the initial question above).
- YOU must set limits and boundaries and be clear with her. Put in writing so she can refer to it.
* As people age, they bring parts of their personalities with them (God help me) ... with their fears and awareness of losing independence.
If I were you, I would tell her (and write down) a schedule of YOUR PRIVATE TIME, i.e., taking off the weekend of . . . . away on the afternoon of . . . . Be sure to include weekly time outs. Put it on a calendar with LARGE RED LETTERS. As needed, get her a caregiver or housekeeper or someone to keep her company / talk to. Do not ask her. Bring someone in. You must take control of this situation as she sounds like she is acting like a hammer and you and your husband are the nails. Ouch.
* Realize she will only 'get worse' as time moves forward. She either decides she wants the two of you to assist her or not. Likely she will backdown as she won't want you to leave - and she may be shocked to hear that you might if you ask her "would you prefer we move out? [or do you want to make this living arrangement work for all of us?]
* While I would ask her to cease 'bad mouthing you' to the public, she may continue as she cannot help it / doesn't have the cognitive development or emotional maturity to stop. You will need to decide if you want to be around this and/or how to handle it. I would ignore it if I were you - it is another fight she wants to pick. She is angry and getting out her feelings - perhaps - the only way she knows how. By hurting you. You need to take control. Ask her to 'stop bad mouthing you' and see what she says / does. Tell this this is UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR and that you will not tolerate it. She may be stunned to hear you say this. She may back down once you set your limits. You need to feel you deserve to be respected and appreciated. If you do not feel that way, she will continue to emotionally / verbally assault you. And none of us here, including you and your hubby, want that!

Gena / Touch Matters
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Go away. DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR ENTIRE LIFE to "help out" your MOM. The mother who raised you would not want that. Get respite care for her if you can.
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