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We moved mom with dementia from her home to Memory Care 6 weeks ago presenting it as a rehab to get to bottom of stomach issues. That worked for about 10 days after which she said they weren’t doing surgery there and she wanted to go home. We met with her and with staff and said doctor wanted her to stay 90 days so they could adjust diet and adjust meds to get her feeling better. She participates in almost all the activities but as soon as a minute free she is in nurses office insisting we are picking her up. She has had her stuff packed in bags for weeks and when we visit she says are you here to get me, I am all packed. Mom tells us to go to hell when we say no just to visit and she has to stay for a few months. They increased antidepressant and added anxiety meds. She has ocd and she is hyper focused on leaving. Staff is saying they want to tell her she is staying. They think she fixates on it more which a timeline and her dementia is not so severe that she is going to forget. Outside social worker says absolutely not, it would devastate her. So confused as to which way would be better. I agree she will not forget and just settle, but is it too soon to tell her? She thinks there is nothing wrong with her and she can take care of herself. We were paying a caregiver for a year to do groceries, make food and spend a few hours with her daily at home who mom thought was a paying tenant. Things were getting worse and safety was becoming a major concern. Thoughts on easing the transition for her?

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I think if one medication isn't working you may be stuck with trying other things, so partially you are stuck with any answers that modern medicine can come up with.

There is no real transition for some. Ever.
I am afraid I am on the side of the staff. I don't believe in lies to elders and think it adds to unrealistic hope and more confusion. I can't say that telling the truth will make a difference, either. Sadly, this is the face of worsening dementia.
I wish I had better things for you. But lying to you and saying "Oh, this will be better in a month or two" just prolongs things. Doesn't it?

I wish you the best. I am so very sorry.
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Can you not just say that she has stay there until her doctor says it's ok for her to return home? That little "fiblet" has seemed to work for many folks over the years.
And as you know there will come a time that she won't remember what you've told her anyway, so it may be worth a shot.
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MikeinTexas Dec 13, 2024
Love term "fiblet." That's been my most successful tool so far. I've
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Thanks everyone. They increased her dosage of antidepressant and it seems to be having some effect at least today. She was much less agitated and didn’t immediately demand to leave. It came up but she seemed to be accepting she is there a couple of months. Will take some time to see if meds continue to help. If she is calmer no reason to rush the discussion of staying longterm. Fingers crosssed.
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RedVanAnnie Dec 13, 2024
Progress! That's encouraging.
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KCsMom This is exactly what I am currently witnessing with husband. We (our 2 sons and me) moved my husband into memory care about 6 weeks ago. I was very frank with him that I could not take care of him at home anymore and this is his new home. He is not adjusting well. Two nights ago he called 5 times in the middle of the night. I turned off the ringer after the first call. When I visited him yesterday, he did not remember calling. He wanted to know when he was coming home. I reminded him that this is where he lives now and that I cannot take care of him at home. He was obviously shocked at the "news". He appeared crushed. He said he thought he was coming home after he worked out a couple of issues. Even before the onset of Alzheimers his preferred coping style was denial. I was in charge of the unpleasantries in life.

I spend a lot of time at his memory care, getting to know staff and residents and the routine. I have observed that most residents cope in this way. While talking with one resident yesterday, she spoke of her boyfriend and their future plans, her nursing career, the sheltie they were going to get for their new place. I made a slight misstep when asking about her past nursing career. She corrected me saying she is still a nurse. I quickly recovered saying, "of course, once a nurse, always a nurse!"

Thanks to this forum and my recent experience with MC, I remind myself often that I am in the depths of grief as is my husband. Trying to deny the reality of it is a fool's mission.

I don't have advice for you. I just offer our story so that you know you are not alone and you are doing the best you can. When I think of many people with whom I have been acquainted that walked this path alone with their person in isolation, I realize we are very fortunate to be able to have memory care as an option.
You are providing memory care for Mom out of love. You are bearing the emotional unpleasantries out of love. She is lucky to have you as a daughter. May you find peace in this.
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Your mother will be living out the rest of her life in a memory care facility. She's still an adult and based on what you say here, is not so far gone with dementia that she's an invalid.

Tell her the truth that the "tenant" you used to pay was a caregiver and you can't afford it anymore. Tell her that she can't live alone anymore and where she is now is her home now. It's good that she's a social person and takes part in the activities the memory care offers. If she's allowed to continue believing that she's only temporarily there, she won't let herself truly accept the reality that she lives there now.

Let me tell you something. I did caregiving for seniors with every kind and level dementia for 25 years. The lying is usually worse than telling them the truth.

There are harmless delusions that you can go along with. Like the one lady I worked for who believed she was secretly married to Elvis Presley. So we'd go along because it made her happy. Then there are the delusions that you never validate because that only fuels them. The ones about everyone stealing, or neighbors spying on them, or letting someone believe they're going home when they're not.

It's better to just take the reaction and vitriol they will throw at you. They may even turn on you. The anger and rage means they understand they're staying. Then they have a chance to acclimate to their permanent home and even have some quality of life there. They never do when they think they're going home.
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JuliaH Dec 14, 2024
I,too, believe honesty is the right thing to do. The little fibs are OK but this is her home now, make it known,make it "hers",get her settled in.
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I'm so sorry you are going through this. Last year I was going through the same thing. My mom just turned 103 on Monday. It’s crazy !!! I've been taking care of her since 2008 when she moved to an independent senior living facility near my home. Fast forward through broken ribs, a fractured hip, fractured knee, 2 bowel obstructions and cognitive decline. She had 24 hr in home care and she still said she was fine... Last year it became clear from a medical and financial standpoint that she needed to move to a NH. We told her it was to get rehab and then we would see how she was doing. I told her in the morning that the doctor was recommending it. We put her in the car and we just did it. I really think it was the only way... I posted at this time last year because every time I visited she yelled and screamed that she didn't belong there and wanted to go back to her home.
I have to admit it was one of the hardest experiences of my life. I knew in my heart she was where she needed to be but that didn't make it any easier. My advice is to just keep telling her the doctor thinks she needs to be there, redirect conversation and smile. Over time she will adjust to the routine, start to participate in activities and hopefully be at peace. It took 9 months for mom to finally accept her living situation and that it was her only option. It was a long time of hearing complaints at every visit and it definitely took a toll on me but I knew with certainty that she is getting great care, eating regular meals, bathing 2x a week and receiving the medical attention she needed. I'm very blessed to have her in a great facility.
A book that was recommended on this site call Mother Lode by Gretchen Staebler is an excellent resource. Blessings to you and your family... try to be kind, loving and patient and know that there are many of us struggling in the same situation. You are not alone.
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Tell her the truth . Stop giving her false belief that it’s temporary , in this case it’s not helping.

She will likely continue insisting she can take of herself . Prepare to keep having the same conversation that she needs to stay for her safety .
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MikeinTexas Dec 13, 2024
If you have the discussion, suggest that you deflect the reason to her doctor. That way, you can show empathy for the situation and even offer to talk to her doctor to "see if he will change his order." It helps direct her anger away from you. You are supporting her reality. And it helps to keep her calm. I do this almost daily.
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This is so sad. I wouldn't come straight out and say she is staying. I would handle this very gently. It can be confusing with mixed messages coming from staff and the social worker. I have to be honest, I'm not all that fond of social workers at times if ever. They tend to complicate matters. I've dealt with them in the past.

I think you are handling it well. Your mother will eventually accept being in the Memory Care unit.

Sometimes there are no easy yes or no answers to these situations other than allowing time and acceptance to take place. It is hard for both the loved one and the family members to separate. Watching our loved ones health and minds deteriorate is difficult.
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BurntCaregiver Dec 13, 2024
Good point about social workers, Scampie. I tend to be suspicious of social workers as well because they often unnecessarily complicate situations with re-inventing the wheel and actual lying.
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Things will most likely change with her adjustment, then change back, and change again. It's really just impossible to figure out the right things to do. I told my mom when she went to assisted living that she was going to live there. She got mad, but within a week she said she had been thinking to put herself there anyway, which was not true, as she didn't have the capacity to figure any of it out, but it helped her to think she was in charge. It was true that she had agreed to go, but then changed her mind about it. The day her caregiver and I took her she'd agreed. Over the years she'd sometimes think the facility was her house and wasn't sure why all those other people were living in her house. Sometimes when I'd visit she'd be ready to go "home", with a bag packed, waiting for me. I'd take her for a drive to the mountains and back to the facility. She'd thank me for taking her home. One thing that may help is to give her a choice when you can. For instance, would she like cake or brownies? Would she like to wear pink or tan today? Would she like to sit with Gladys or Mattie at dinner? Would she like the quilt or comforter on her bed today? Front or back porch for a little visit? If all the little things in life get to be her choice, the big thing about where her home is might not be so important. In other words, deflect and deflect and deflect some more. But I do like the fib of the doctor's orders and used it a lot. When she could still use her phone, though, she'd sometimes call her doctor to ask if it was true that he ordered her to do whatever it was I fibbed about, as there were times she was on to me, but mostly she'd agree to do what the doctor ordered. Good luck. I hope your mom settles soon.
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You have to make decisions based on where the best care is for your loved one (LO). You cannot base it on what they think they “want or need” because they cannot understand at all what they “need.” You have to make decisions without their input. Make sure you have your POA in place for health and financials so you can make the best decision.
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