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How awful for you. I can empathise with you and hope this helps you feel better. This site is fantastic for support.
My story very similar. My father has been acting strangely for a good few years. He’s always right. Doctors,nurses, physios, Carers and numerous organisations I have had to help all hopeless according to him.
People were stealing from him. Burglers in house and he chased them out ( at age 91), people ringing doorbell in middle of night.
He has been in care home 18 months and it continued.I am only child and got told by him care staff scalding him in bath, they were stealing his socks, poisoning him, did not get doctor for him. All lies. Told staff I was hopeless and let him down. My problems well documented on here.
Behaved well for staff and only other person who visits him.
Staff and other friend convinced he was of sound mind. He also could answer all questions doc put to him so dementia ruled out.
3 weeks ago he had a stroke. Has recovered quite well.
At hospital he had brain scan which showed large amount of damage from previous strokes at front and back of brain. Doc showed me scan to explain how bad it was. He diagnosed vascular dementia and explained hallucinations and inappropriate behaviour down to damage.
Somehow I can deal with it much better now. I still walk away if anger directed at me but don’t feel so terrible now.
The bad behaviours been goin on for years but strokes and damage not picked up.
Still don’t have any answer for you. Keep a diary of everything I do. Helps to explain situation.
Could you take her to doc under pretence of something else. Email or write to him with history in advance. Good luck.
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gdaughter Feb 2019
So much is out there on Alzheimer's yet not as specifically on vascular dementia. In the near future I am taking a continuing ed course on it and looking forward to learning more. I guess on the good side they are far more functional...but it is so much more frustrating for those in their lives. I feel sometimes like they leave a "wake" of messes and damages to clean up after...food they can get, then leave it out of the fridge; emptying a wastebasket, then leaving it in a weird location to be put back. Hiding things like leftovers (to them, putting it away). My mom put a bouquet of cut flowers into a pot of dirt...she planted them...
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Sounds to me as if you and your daughters have put forth as much effort as you could have...time for strict boundaries with all the family. If mom refuses any care at all, theres nothing you can do until some catastrophe happens. And when it does, someone besides you should step in to clean up the mess....sounds harsh i know...but you need to put yourself and your daughters first from now on!! Hugs to you💞
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Three suggestions
1. Have family members you can confide in have your mom over and invite you. Have her priest there to act as a neutral party. Tell priest what is going on prior.
2. Have a priest make a home visit to see your mom to assess situation.
3. Have adult protective services investigate.
Good luck...my guess it is dementia and/or UTI.
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It sounds like dementia - she is at the stage where she has turned on the person that she is closest to= you - many of us have been through this too - FYI many of those you will not defend you many have tried & what she replied made them uncomfortable so they are being ostriches about her in case she turns on them too

Start documenting incidents - use the video part of your cell phone & record her lying then down load to your computer - keep a paper trail on everything - start a log of what you are doing for her with the time & her reception including the phone calls - when/if you need proof of items you will be ready

You have taken the first step by coming here to be educated - read some but check out 'TEEPA'S GEMS' by Teepa Snow as she is basically the 'dementia whisperer' - there are multiple short videos [3 to 8 minutes] on multiple subjects for example she shows how to talk to those with dementia

Where do you live as that can change some things? - talk to your own dr. about what is available to help you both -
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It may be best for you to get a therapist to help you as you deal with your mother and the changes, sense of loss, abandonment she has brought you and your girls. It sounds like you all were very close for years and now she has done a complete 180. My guess is that there is something medical going on but she won’t see the doctor to confirm it. Deep down she probably knows that something is wrong. So instead she projects onto you. Take care of yourself and wait. She’s at an age where things get worse especially if she’s not visiting a physician. Best of luck and strength to you and your girls.
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A lot of good suggestions here: I went thru it (Mom’s episodes were due to UTIs + the beginnings of vascular dementia). You must NOT put up with any abuse! IF THE SITUATION PERMITS: can a live-in be found to absorb some
of this drama?! I.e. a free place to live in exchange for some caregiving. It must be carefully monitored of course; you must find a good soul who can handle it. Mom or Dad may balk, but I cannot over-emphasize the importance of taking care of yourself first!! Be a part of their lives, but watch your own mental & physical health above all!
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AnnReid is correct. She has dementia.

You are writing our story too. My mom 84, lived in another state by my sister, she committed suicide. Then my moms husband died of sudden massive heart attack. I don’t think she ever recovered from those losses especially so close together. Moved her here and it’s been a disaster. The stories and the lengths she goes to hurt me has been the biggest shock. She’s very convincing then some part is so off that you realize she believes what she’s saying. They are delusional. Get her to dr, it gets worse I hate to say. Come here for help, and don’t fall into the gaslighting trap.
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Can someone else go see her and have a casual conversation with her to confirm that there’s an issue? Sounds like you need some back up. If she’s combative with you, there’s NO way she’ll go willingly to a doctor. Since it’s such a radical change, I’d get an outsider to evaluate her. An anonymous call to adult protective services will mean that someone trained to look for erratic behaviors will come and evaluate her. Be prepared to address her accusations with the case worker. If mom is found to be confabulating stories, she will indeed need further review.... and it’s out of your control at that point.
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Get her to a doctor. NOW. Then get guardianship over her and see what you can do to have her placed in assisted living.
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gdaughter Feb 2019
She posted that her mother hates/refuses doctors, so you are going to have her attempt that? And at the moment, without documentation from an MD her mother is likely to hold her own in front of a judge so guardianship will not be granted.
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My step mother was like this while raising us kids. Finally, at age 72 in a facility she was medicated. Since your mom started so late in life I would think it's a UTI. Some kind of infection anyway. My father in law had a BLOOD infection that caused this kind of behavior. Get her to a dr asap
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gdaughter Feb 2019
It crossed my mind...when reading the original post...but I think the description of how long term this behavior has been going on point to dementia of some type and less likely to infection. She already stated about the difficulties that would prevent getting to an MD.
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She should be checked to rule out a UTI. These can cause odd behavioral changes in the elderly whereas in younger people the symptoms are burning and urgency. My mom actually went into delirium several times from UTIs. This can cause odd behavior and a UTI should be ruled out before dementia.
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Teresa914 Feb 2019
That happened to my mom
A year and a half ago she fell and we had to call EMS. She told the doctor that we were arguing and I pushed her. I wasn't even in the room when she fell. Come to find out she had a UTI. She used to be so hateful to me, call me names and threaten me. She's on meds now and she doesn't act like that anymore. If she starts having Alzheimer's like symptoms them we know it's a UTI.
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It's Obvious Your Mom has Changed and Yes, There is Probably a Hormone lose somewhere Now Somehow. Ther eis Not much you can do, But what you can Do if you See she is Endangering Herself, Call Adult protective Services to Come up and Get the ball Rolling and Put her Somewhere else. Perhaps even she will End up with Dementia One day, maybe even Alzheimer's, maybe Not. Like My Own at Home Dad, Who has Emphysema, And my Mom Gone, Just Mean and Difficult and Unreasonable sometimes.
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gdaughter Feb 2019
I know you mean well in your responses Parise, but Is There Some Reason why Every Other word in your responses Must be Capitalized?
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They tend to go a little crazy at first  and it gets worse mom though pepper on her food was bugs, she saw people in the mirror and tv people were talking to her personally. Everybody was stealing and her dreams were reality,  started 4 years ago. Mom is in memory care she doesn't know me or make any sense but I get smiles now and then if you can afford it look into memory care facilities
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gdaughter Feb 2019
There are different kinds of dementia...the type your mom has includes delusions/hallucinations. (Lewy Body?).
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Oh my. Get some help. My Mom was so sweet her entire life. Then? Sheesh. Here comes the dementia. The things she says. Wow, unbelievable.  Try not to take it personally. Just try to get her evaluated and get her some help. Something isn't right.
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Could be the beginnings of dementia.

Does she ever go to a doctor? If so, can you alert her doctor to this change in behaviour and your concerns in general. Otherwise I am not sure there is much you can do until a major health crisis of some kind occurs.

Living there with disapproving relatives must be very uncomfortable. Have you thought of alternatives? My mother bad mouthed me to relatives _It was her borderline personality disorder. Some of them knew, one I set straight via a long letter, one I told off, then ignored and avoided. At one point I cut contact with my mother for a year to give myself a break. It doesn't look like confrontations or questioning family is helping any. This all must be particularly hard as you were close. Such a large change in behaviour indicates an underlying problem to me dementia and.or mental illness. Right now I think looking after you has to be your priority.
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I don't want to start anything but as an outsider looking in I see either a sudden mental illness or you are seeing a side of your mother you had previously not been subjected to. You have always been close to her because you were an "easy kid", I can't help but wonder about your sister's relationship with your mother and whether she is also surprised at this kind of behaviour from your mother?
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The thing is, though; if her early experiences in this here hometown had been so traumatic that they have wrought havoc on her personality ever since she's come back to live there - then, surely, why on earth would she have agreed to go back?

Just to confirm, when you say you and she have been extremely close for your entire life, I'd assumed you meant close and happily so, yes? Rather than close and uncomfortable?

For the time being, only, I'd perhaps try dropping the whole subject and concentrate on getting her to relax enough to talk - about anything normal, not about her health. Consult your own doctor about how you might handle this, ask where you can get further advice, that kind of thing; but when it comes to your mother do anything you can to smooth her feathers and reassure her.

There is, must be, SOMETHING going on. But all that anger, weirdness, fear, frustration - crumbs, it could be absolutely anything; and of course it could be absolutely anything + dementia, or not. But you know this isn't her, don't you. This is not the mother you've been close to all these years.
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IkdLkd Feb 2019
That’s the thing that’s odd. She’s close with her siblings and only one, the oldest, claims they were abused. Shes #2 so maybe the oldest is the only one that was old enough to remember. She has never claimed having a traumatic experience, actually the opposite and loves her siblings, but she’s always been hung up on not being good enough because she grew up on a farm. That’s her own insecurity. She loves to use it as an excuse. Same with my dad. He was a great provider but more robot than emotional and she blames him for her shortcomings in her life, even though he has been out of it for 30 years. At some point you can’t continue to blame someone else.

As far as us being close, we have been my entire life. I was an easy kid, my sister was a bit of a trouble maker (nothing major just teenage stuff). I would see how much it hurt my mom for my sister to be naughty so I never was. I spent more time with her than I did my friends. When I graduated from college I moved to the city where she was living to be close to her. We lived 1/2 mile from each other for 20+ years. We talked every day, saw each other 3-4 times a week, vacationed all over the world together, day trips, weekend trips, etc. She adored my kids and they adored her. I divorced when my girls were young and had full custody so there was a lot of time spent with my mom and the girls, usually the four of us together. we never even argued. Nothing but love and laughter. That’s why this behavior is so disturbing. She’s full of hate, I can’t even talk to her. There has to be something going on by when I address her siblings she’s closest to they either don’t respond at all or say they don’t want to get involved. But they are involved, they are the ones shunning me and mocking me in public. I never dreamed moving here would be so toxic and we would end up this way. That’s why I’m doing the research because I know it’s not normal. My friends tell me to just walk away, cut my losses, but I can’t. I love her.
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I should've thought to ask - how old is your mother?

She flips out when you enquire sensitively about her mental health - is it possible that she is very frightened about exactly this point? Any history of dementia in her - amazingly large! - family?
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IkdLkd Feb 2019
Countrymouse, she is 74 years old. Her father had dimentia so it would make even more sense.
She has always been anti-therapy and has always refused to discuss anything mental health-related. My sister and I both think something happened to her when she was young. We’ve encouraged her over our adult lifetime to go to therapy to deal with life’s hardships and she would always get angry. Really angry. It’s almost like she doesn’t want that door to be opened. She complains a lot about being suppressed and dislikes my dad (who she divorced 30 years ago) and still blames him and her “farm girl” stigma upbringing for everything that has gone wrong. We always wanted her to rise above her hardships but she prefers to place blame instead. My sister lives on the other side of the country and is minimally involved. My dad tried to write my mom a letter (big mistake) and she’s even more angry at me for it. He was only trying to help. She will only surround herself with people that agree with her, even if she’s wrong. If you challenge her she will get angry or simply dispose of you. It’s so toxic.
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Sorry - just to clarify: you and your daughters AND your mother all moved to her home town two years ago? Both households moved?

Then just out of interest: why? And, had you ever lived in this town before or is the whole social scene there new to you?

The thing is: you say this behaviour is radically different from the woman you've been extremely close to all your life. Plus, her grasp on things like dates and arrangements seems to have gone. Plus, the highlight for me - she told people you had poisoned your kids? What, literally, leaving them dead?

When you take those things out of context they don't sound altogether like the early stages of dementia. They sound like dementia that is well under way.

Try not to be hurt with those family members who say they understand but don't defend you. They have, whether through instinct or experience, figured out that contradicting your mother or trying to prove to her that she's got something wrong is counterproductive - it will make her angrier, more defensive and even loopier in her world view.

But you do need to get allies on board, because no matter how much your mother despises doctors she sure as heck needs to be examined by one or more. One, how is her general health? More, how is her mental health? There has to be a massive question mark over both points; and seeing as your mother won't accept any suggestions from you then we'll have to find another way to get it done.

Whose help do you think you might ask for?
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IkdLkd Feb 2019
Hello Countrymouse. Thank you for your feedback. To answer your questions, yes, we all moved to her home town two years ago. We were living in a big city and my daughters went into high school. I was paying outrageous tuition and not crazy about their school. We had been talking about moving for years and decided to move to my mom’s home town. We have a massive family, I have 16 aunts and uncles and 27 first cousins. My cousins have kids similar in age to my daughters. We visit several times a year and consiser it home away from home, so it was a natural transistion to make it our home. My mom retired and was surrounded by her siblings. I kept my job of 18 years and continued working from home. We now live 3 miles from each other.

Regarding the poison comment—she uses it in a context that I have positioned their minds and turned them against her. They will both defend me that I haven’t. I have been extremely neutral in their relationship with her and they also both feel they have been kicked to the curb. She has no contact with them. They each have their own cell phone and she is free to reach out if she wants to.

Her general health is excellent. She’s in good physical shape, beautiful, funny, fiesty, charming, and has always been honest. She lives alone, drives, and gets around just fine. This is why she’s so convincing.
Mentally she’s also on point most of the time, unless you bring up mental health and she will flip out and get visually angry. I think she even questions her own mental health and she adamantly refuses seeing a therapist. I almost suspect something maybe happened to her when she was very young that she doesn’t remember and coming back into the same environment is making her go crazy. Her oldest sister claims they were abused which the rest deny. Her sister removed herself from the family many years ago.

I’ve brought up the possibility of it being dementia to family a few times and it gets ignored. I think it’s just a matter of time before it gets worse and they will realize it’s her and not me. Nobody in their right mind would just give you their daughter and grandkids, especially after having such a wonderful relationship.
Thanks again for your input, this all helps me put things into perspective.
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The spoken word is powerful...and can also be painful.
Dont waste your time trying to defend yourself. It is the beginning of dementia and there’s not much to be done about it. Although the UTI test is worth pursuing. This can be done at home, at an urgent care, ER, dr appointment. Perhaps one of her confidants could persuade her to get it done if not yourself. If she has an infection she will need an antibiotic. She might not have the symptoms we normally associate with a UTI. It can manifests as dementia in elders and is toxic.

My aunt (92 vascular dementia) did this confabulation for awhile.
She went around telling anyone that would listen that my husband and I were moving in with her. I don’t think she missed a person. That she had made us a deal we couldn’t refuse. (Never did find out what that was).
She told all her friends this and a couple were demanding that their own daughter do what I was going to do!
When they asked me about it, I just laughed and said “It’s news to me “.
I was worried when she said a young niece was moving into an apartment (14 yr old). I let the mother know in case it caused a problem. Many of her comments seemed to do with someone moving into apartments. Three or four different people. She was very believable. To my knowledge she knew not one person who lived in an apartment. She was by all appearances very competent at this time. Driving, mowing her own lawn, cooking, going to church. It was amazing and baffling.

Does your mom take any meds now? It might be a side affect. I wish I had known to check that back in the day.

I am really sorry you are dealing with this. Time passes. It will become clear that your mom has issues. I know you mourn the mother who seems to have disappeared. I can also tell you that those who don’t lose their reasoning can be just as trying.
We are living in a time when the brain seems to be assaulted in ways we don’t understand while often the other organs remain stable.
It’s a difficult burden for those who are caretakers and love them.

Come here and vent. We understand. Hugs
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I feel terrible for the shock you’ve experienced, but respectfully, it would seem that the time for “confrontation” has probably passed.
Same thing with suggesting “........if she’s lying and doesn’t know it......” when if she actually IS misstating facts and doesn’t know it, SHE DOESN’T KNOW IT, so rather than reacting to her situation from the perspective of your own sadness, confusion, and discomfort, you or someone else in her loving and caring circle HAVE TO TAKE CHARGE.
Yes, her behavior is not normal, and yes, you do not “know who she is anymore”, but out of love for her you need to start finding out the reasons WHY this has happened and what she needs next. My LO happened upon a geriatric specialist HERSELF, who then became a source of direction to us. A social worker or psychologist with geriatric credentials, a local Office of the Aging, all places to start.
YOUR reputation, if based on the opinions of people who are ignorant concerning the issues that may be part of the lives of the elderly, is not nearly as important as helping the mom whom you love get the diagnostics/therapies/interventions that she needs.
This is HARD STUFF, but we’re all Here for you, and we’re all in this together.
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IkdLkd Feb 2019
AnnReid, THANK YOU!! I sincerely appreciate your blunt and forward reply.
This whole dementia thing is new to me and I’m only in the beginning stage of research, but it all makes perfect sense. I’ve been trying so hard to do damage control with very little consideration that it would be mental/medical, but I obviously need to change my path.
She has not been diagnosed but it’s so clear. Thank you again for really opening my eyes.
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Midkid,

Every March, around the time of the Academy Awards, we should have our own AgingCare awards ceremony for "Best ShowTime Perfomance for Leading Actress, Supporting Actress, Actor," etc.!

My mom would be a contender!
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Lkd lkd,

((((Hugs))))

From what you've described, it sounds like dementia or its precursor.

Even pre-dementia, Mom said and did weird things. Honestly, I think the dementia thing's been percolating at least a decade, even though her dementia diagnosis is only 2 years old. In those 2 years she's done a total character assassination on me and her closest family members, maligning us to our church family, friends, close and distant family members. Some of the stories she tells are beyond ridiculous. It grieves me to say some people (to their discredit) chose to believe her, I suppose because she's otherwise sweet to them. Most don't believe her. And because the ones that don't believe are sick and tired of defending me (and other family members) to her, almost all have quit calling or visiting Mom. She's run them all off and can't figure out why so few come to visit. No amount of rationalization or explaining helps. Her brain is FUBAR.

Challenging Mom causes catastrophic meltdowns. When she tells falsehoods about those I love, I simply say that's "not how I see it" or "that hasn't been my experience with _____ ."

At first, I was shocked and heartbroken to discover the crazy fabrications my own mother was spreading about me. My own mother! They are so awful I can't repeat them here. Early on I asked her a couple of times not to spread false rumors about me. She went absolutely ballistic. Won't be doing that again.

Anti-anxiety meds and antidepressants helped my mom somewhat; something you may want to look into for your mom at some point in time. I know how hard this is. I had to go low contact and practice "gray stone" (or "gray rock") around her. You can do an online search on these strategies or a search on this forum. It really helped me cope. But not Mom. She's lost in her own mind.

Keep coming here, sharing, listening, and putting into practice what you've learned. It will help! ((((More hugs)))))
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IkdLkd Feb 2019
CantDance, thank you for your response. I’m sorry to hear you are experiencing a similar situation. I will research “gray stone,” maybe it will help. What I struggle with is she hasn’t been diagnosed with anything, refuses to see a doctor, and her family doesn’t see that there is a problem. They keep telling me how sad she is and that we’ve abandoned her, but doesn’t acknowledge the fact that I haven’t stopped trying for the past two years, and in reality she has abandoned us.

Just like you, when I confronted her about spreading rumors and asked her to stop talking about it she flipped out. She has created a culture of hate and hostility towards me from many family members but not one can say what I’ve done wrong. I’ve begged for them to tell me so I can fix it and they just say “I don’t know.” How can they make a hateful judgement without any information?

I guess it’s just a matter of time, if she is sick it will eventually be obvious to everyone. I’m just at such a loss on so many levels it’s hesrtbreaking. Thanks again and many hugs to you!
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I am so sorry that you are it. It seems like a nut comes loose and the next thing you know you are a social pariah.

The hardest thing to face and let go of is that you did nothing to cause the behavior and you can't do anything to change it.

It sounds like some distance is needed. Let her call you but you don't call her. Get other family members to step up and help, so next emergency uncle bob gets called, when they see how her time lines are all screwy that should help your reputation. Let them find out how difficult it is to help her.

There are always 2 sides to every story and people that don't care enough to hear both sides aren't worth the headache. I can't imagine how hard this is for you but you can't control anyone but you.

Is there anyway to get her checked for a UTI? This nutty behavior sounds like she could have a raging infection that is making her delusional. Just a thought.

Take care of you and stand tall when you see people that have shunned you, you know the truth, try not to defend her lies and justify your actions.

You can do this!
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IkdLkd Feb 2019
Isthisrrealyreal thank you for your response. I have done what you suggested and have kept a distance for the past year and a half. In that time she hasn’t made a single effort to engage and all of the attempts I have made have been denied. She keeps telling family we have abandoned her but she is the one that moved (3 blocks away) and refused to provide her new address, even when I asked. Instead she said “I don’t even want to tell you what I want to do.” Her comment was worrisome and I asked if she was feeling suicidal which made her more angry.

I’ve begged to be invited and included in family functions and we are not. That’s fine (not fine but her choice) if she doesn’t want us but she says she does yet continues to bash me to anyone that will listen that we have abandoned her.

In my own defense I have provided the countless failed attempts to make amends and resolve the situation, when she hasn’t made a single attempt, but somehow it’s still my fault. It’s so bad I’ve been mocked and shunned publicly. I keep asking what I’ve done wrong and nobody has an answer.

Ive been told “just apologize” but for what? Honestly for what? I have never wronged her, ever. We were so close my entire life. It’s not beneath me to apologize, but Nobody can tell me what to apologize for.

Ill take your advice and stop defending myself. It’s all one sided and like you said, the people that don’t care enough to hear both sides aren’t with the headache. I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that I truly believed these people loved us and cared about us and now we are being shunned and they won’t even provide a reason.
The few cousins I have that so still see us say my mom just blasts us. I never initiate any conversation about her I just try to enjoy their company but they always manage to bring it up. It puts such a strain on the family. I just can’t fix it by myself.

I wish someone would get her to a doctor but the people I have shared my concerns with don’t think she has a problem. I think the fact that she’s written her granddaughters off is obvious enough. Something is wrong with all of these people! I just don’t understand.
Thanks for listening, it helps to know people are having experiences like this. My heart goes out to anyone in a similar situation.
Many thanks for your input!
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Confabulation. My mil is doing it. Not against me. She makes up stories about needing help, calling for us and crawling everywhere. I've been on to her strange game but my husband just got his first dose. She really scared him. I hope my mind mind never gets to where I break my children's hearts. You need to record every interaction with her, for your own protection.
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IkdLkd Feb 2019
Hello Reader. Thanks for your input. I agree with you 100 percent, At this point I will not engage with my mom without someone with me as a witness. She has said so many terrible things about us I feel like anything I say or do will be twisted around into another damaging lie. You’d think after a year and a half she wouldn’t have anything else to say but she continues to bash us to anyone who will listen. I recently asked her again to stop talking and lying about us she hung up on me, and sent me multiple all caps texts saying “YOU NEED HELP!!!” She’s so aggressive which is not normal for her. She has always been easy going and calm. I don’t even know this person. Why can’t most of them see it. The few that have tried to stand up for me have also been written off.
Thanks for the advice!!
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The thing is that if she is operating under a delusion about you and your daughters, trying to convince her that she is wrong will not work. If others side with you, she won't care, but, write them off too. Delusions can be completely irrational, but, the patient cannot be convinced otherwise.

But, if she refuses treatment, that's not something you can control. You might give her doctor the heads up, so he can give her a mini eval when she's in, but, if she doesn't go in much......it's problematic. I think I'd get a consult with an Elder Law attorney who regularly handles Guardianship cases. Does she handle her own finances? It may be premature, if she is still competent, but, I would at least find out what is needed as evidence, process, costs, etc. These delusions could end up getting her into trouble if she messes with the wrong people.

Have you tried letting her be and saying nothing? Just let her get in contact with you on her own terms,
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IkdLkd Feb 2019
Thank you, Sunnygirl. The problem is she despises doctors and refuses to go. My grandma had breast cancer and my mom won’t even get a mammogram. I’ve suggested seeing a doctor, therapist, family counselor, and she’s visually angry about each suggestion.
As far as letting her be and saying nothing, that’s what I’ve been doing for the past year and a half. I made the choice to back off when she moved and refused to tell me where. That’s when she started with the “they abandoned me” lies. It just escalated from there. I did make attempts to get her to a counselor, therapist, priest, other family to mediate (not thinking it may be medical/mental at that point), all to no avail. But aside from those attempts we have left her alone. I have clearly communicated to her that we want to be included and invited in writing and verbally but she continually keeps the stance that we’ve abandoned her and tells terrible stories that make me look like a horrible person. She’s completely ruined my reputation and in a small down I don’t even wanrt to go to the grocery store. I know the truth but nobody else seems to
care. I guess if she does have a mental/medical issue it will eventually surface. Thanks again for your input!
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Since this change is not normal, she needs to see a doctor. A geriatric one would be best. Members have used the excuse that their LOs need to go because Medicare requires it. If she likes your daughters, enlist to take her.
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IkdLkd Feb 2019
JoAnn, thanks for your reply. I agree she needs to see a doctor but she refuses to go. She’s written off my daughters as well, which is even more disturbing to me. They lost their dad two years ago, and to have their grandma kick them to the curb is beyond my capability to understand. They have never even had an arguement. My daughter was crying one night saying she couldn’t experience any more loss.
My oldest graduated last year and left for college and youngest is graduating and will be in college in the fall, it’s so sad that my mom won’t be part of these milestones. I just don’t understand. It has to be a sickness. I just wish she would see a doctor. Instead she says I need help. Why isn’t anyone close to her stepping in to help her? They just believe her lies.
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Going through some similar stuff with my mother, Nobody is close enough to her to see the truth (tho she lives with brother) and the stories she tells---most people think she's just a little dolly---but to me and brother, we see a different side.

Even if IS dementia, I don't know what we'd do. The time to move her to AL has passed, she's driving B's family crazy and they mostly just ignore her.

I'm curious to see what one does in this situation. She can snow the best of 'em.
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IkdLkd Feb 2019
MidKid I think it’s just a matter of time before it surfaces. In the meantime it’s just heartbreak. I’m just shocked at all of the people that believe her and don’t give it a second thought. It’s drpressing.
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