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Irish - there are thems that do & thems that don't then complain for ever no matter what - you will never satisfy her so stop banging your head against the wall [unless you like to fix dry wall ...LOL] - you have done your bit for her & she is basically incapable of doing anything but complain - listen [like you did & got her into a better place] but she is a 'duty' not a someone who will ever give positive [to anything] feedback but will be a duty not someone you can ever look forward to seeing given her attitude but there are people like that everywhere

You & hubbie are great that you haven't cut her loose years ago - good on you both for still having a relationship with such a negative person .... so go forth with a halo on both your heads forever because she seems to be a royal pain in the old pattoot
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moecam, I've seen a sign on an online store that hangs on the wall and says "Bang your head here!" Seems apropos to mention it :)
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Irishdaughter,

How long are your visits?

If they are over 20 minutes, it's too long!
I don't care that you only visit every other week. You shouldn't be "craming" many hours into a visit.

I have had to learn to read MY stress levels and leave BEFORE I come unglued. Since I've tuned into my feelings I don't get so worked up and then overwhelmed after the visit. At one point I was taking anti-anxiety medication before visiting her but, since I have paid attention to my anxiety build up from her attitude, I can nip any problem before it starts by leaving.

It's too bad that it has to be this way but seeing her for two 20 minute visits is better than not at all.

Also, give yourselves a "vacation" week off every now and again. This is not life and death stuff. You've done the best you can.
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SueC1957, I agree. Twenty minutes right BEFORE lunch or evening meal. Quick look around, check supplies and let her transition into her next activity. Try not to focus in on her attention. Keep your safety shields up, remain pleasant but noncommittal.
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My mom has so many people coming to be with her or help her now (hskkpr, RN, shower watcher, cat groomer, hairdresser, grocery delivery, pharmacy delivery, meal delivery, and now PT 2x a week) - she doesn't have time for me! LOL
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Irishdaughter11 - your sister in law could be my 95 year old mother. True story; I recently had (relatively minor) back surgery. Two weeks.....literally, two weeks after, I went to visit my mother in AL carrying with me (again, 2 weeks post op) two bags of her stuff....gingerale, potato chips, babybel cheese, coffee, muffins, etc., and I no sooner open the door to her room and I hear, "they (the staff, of course) couldn't even leave me ONE napkin, not ONE!!!!" I look in the cabinet and, of course, there's an unopened package she just couldn't see. She continues to b*tch about that, or one thing or another, after which (after putting all of her stuff away), I look at her and say, "Mom, I just had back surgery two weeks ago. Would you like to know how I'm doing?" She stares at me for a moment or two, and then says, "Yes, how are you feeling?" Now, mind you, until I actually got there, she used my back issues and upcoming and thereafter surgery as an excuse to call us multiple times a day...."I'm just calling to see how you're feeling" but, of course, those calls always lead to her complaining about anything and everything. Another poster mentioned narcissistic personality disorder, and he or she is absolutely ON TARGET. Doesn't actually change anything once you understand, but at least you can know it's not you, it's her. Sigh.........this caregiving thing is HARD!!!! All my best to you and everyone else here as we navigate all of this while still maintaining our own sanity.
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Unfortunately, she is right now in the ER at the local hospital.
Unexpected vomiting. 3rd time in a month.
Of course, she is blaming the CNA's at the Home as the cause of her illness, i.e. they don't give her enough water to swallow a pill, they don't prop her head up high enough to swallow, they shouldn't give her the pill so early in the morning on an empty stomach. The pill is for acid reflux.
I guess the CNA's are following the Dr.'s orders. Oh, also she says they are giving her the "wrong" meds.
SIgh...Then she refused to stay overnight and insisted on going back to the Home at midnight so the poor CNA on duty had to bring her in, feed her, bathe and prepare her for bed, etc while she should have stayed in the hospital and saved everyone the aggragvation.
Now, today, she is throwing up "coffee grounds" - back at the ER. I
bet she has a type of esophogitis as she never drinks water and yesterday she said she had a very very sore throat, I guess from the vomiting.
We will be over there tomorrow to see what's going on. Today we were tending to another family member also at the hospital!!! I'm quite sure she will be blaming the CNA's, etc at the Home for everything as she "was FINE (not) until she moved in there!"
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Just so you're aware, "coffee ground" vomit is actually blood. She's got a bleed somewhere. Get her admitted. NOT observation. ADMITTED.
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I'm sorry to say, that if she were in her home, there would be another set of complaints. It's a sad situation, as it is with many of our loved ones who are aging.
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Sounds very much like my wife. No matter where she is she's unhappy. She's been in rehab and now in LTC since a stroke in Nov. 2017. Currently back in the hospital for pneumonia, refuses to go back to same nursing home. I done all the legwork to get her into another one and she still only wants to go home. At the MY she has 3 shifts of nurses and CNA's. At home it's me 24/7. She doesn't understand why i can't handle it. I'm 64 and have been living with chronic back pain since 96 and I'm raising a15 to boy. If she were home, she would complain because she's home and not out and about constantly. I try my best to just let it all roll off. She's very demanding and had never been and will never be satisfied.
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Whatever happened to the Esther Walton and Beverly Hillbillies Grannies? The "As You Wish" Princess Bride Grandpas? (Thank you, Peter Falk!) Opinionated and saucy, but with hearts of gold.

Though long gone, all 4 of my grandparents were kind, hardworking souls who seldom complained and were tickled to be a part of their kids' lives. Thankful to be alive and kickin.' They were po' folks born near the turn of the century (1900) who led anything but privileged lives.

Not all seniors of today are dissatisfied and demanding, but many are. Which begs the question, "Why?" Or am I comparing the past and present through a distorted lens?
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Can'tDance,
I've often wondered 'bout that too. My grandparents didn't seem near as "spoiled and demanding" as my mother. What's with our parents generation?
Like they're entitled or maybe it's just we're around them more and hear more griping.
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I think they are more entitled. My grandpa never complained. He was stubborn, and it was like pulling teeth to get him to go to the doctor or hospital when he was sick, but he didn't want to be a burden on anyone else, and tried his hardest to be as independent as possible until the end.

My mom, on the other hand, is the opposite. She would have me wait on her hand and foot 24/7 if she could...even now that we finally found her a nice place, when she calls it's "I need you to bring me ____" "I need some different flip flops. The ones you bought me are white and don't match." "Take me out of here, I wanna come home with you", etc. It's never just a phone call or just a nice visit, it's an endless to-do list for me. So yes, for some unfortunately it is normal.
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I think lots of them died before they got that old. My mother surveyed small pox, her sister surveyed polio, I had measles. My dad survived a ruptured appendix, his brother did not. When there are fewer folk surviving to great old age and dementia, you have fewer grumpy people in general.
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some good insights about more of us surviving to old age. My mom wants to be waited on constantly, too. I'm an enabler, but this is helping me learn NOT to be. :) People in their 80s now are children of the depression; my mom was born in 1930. I had always assumed that a child of the depression would be less demanding, but it seems like I'm wrong. Not the first time, even today!!! :)
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Wow.
Your experience hit home with me, even though my mother isn't in a care facility...yet.

I agree with others who posted that when you do join your hubby for a visit, just laugh it off, agree with her. "Well, goodness, if the coffee's cold we'll need to let them know about that!" or "Who in his/her right mind would put those items on the same plate?" It sounds like she's always been like this and you certainly can't change her spots now.

My 88 year old mother did a great job raising us. I know she loves us and we love her. HOWEVER...she is like you described your SIL. Very private. Kind of prissy, too, about some things although she used to do all her own lawn work and landscaping. Very smart and hard-working. Let's just say she's "particular" about things.

My father divorced her 30 years ago and she never got over it. She brings it up nearly EVERY time we speak, and I've told her I'm sick of it but she is NOT, obviously.

She still lives in her own home but it is becoming increasingly difficult for her to care for it. She constantly mentions her fear of nursing facility, how bad they are and that they leave people "sitting in their own poop" and "steal from everyone". She wants to just die at home, and as much as I dislike saying this, it would be best for her because she doesn't want to go anywhere else where she can make new friends and not be alone (she is two hours from us.) She is negative a lot of the time, says she gets down because of what my father did, but nothing I say has helped her get over this.

I have a full time job that I cannot quit due to financial reasons. My gut tells me she CANNOT live with us, and the subject has never been broached. I dread the day that I have to tell her this. She would never be happy living with us, though. She would constantly berate me about my father, wanting to know if I'm speaking with him and chastising me for having anything to do with him. (After 30 years, mind you.)

Wherever she goes, nothing will be right, she'll be afraid of the neighbors, and it will be constant complaining. When she complains, I just say, "yes, that's so bad." Some times she says I'm just being a "smarty-pants".

You and your husband sound like good folks - it is not your responsibility to make her happy, although I know that guilt really gets to us at times. Hang in there and just don't let this come between you both. How you chose to react to her negativity is up to you. Absorb it - or deflect it in a positive way. This seems to be working out for my husband when we visit her. He used to get steamed by her negativity, but now he just teases her and this seems to diffuse the tension and negativity spewing from her.

Best to you.
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Multipass, you sound as if you certainly have your head on straight! Since you and hubby are getting so good at deflecting your mom's negativity, be sure and deflect her expectations of coming to live with you if she ever starts.... you won't be sorry; feel badly, maybe, but not sorry....
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Frazzled, if you and I traded moms, we'd never know the difference... and you all are right; I don't remember this stuff from grandparents, who, in my case, lived well into their eighties.
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All - just for the ability to laugh for a moment......have I ever said how hilarious some of the folks' names on this forum are?????? It's the little things, I guess, that keep us all going, right? Hugs to you all!!!!!!!
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good point, lmb1234! I have been using 4077 for 35 years -- it was the first PIN ever assigned to me by a bank. I could always remember it because of MASH4077. And now it finally makes sense! I've become a hospital, just like MASH4077! :)
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