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Just got call from sister, who is also pressuring me to go the way of hospice. Sorry, but I feel we are on par or even better than hospice at this point. I am taking care of mom 24/7 and have 3 good helpers with another one I am interviewing plus I just signed with a terrific nursing agency that is sending a nurse, OT, PT and speech therapist. What more can hospice offer that we are not already doing. Mom does NOT have a terminal illness, is not wanting to die, is not in pain or suffering. She is bedbound due to recovering from falling out of bed. Yes, that invites new issues to deal with, but I/we are addressing them as they come. I am frustrated and angry about this. It is my understanding that hospice would NOT have sent mom to the hospital when she had BM issues or a UTI and would just let it happen and go the way of death instead of dealing with those issues. Am I off here? cadams
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Katiekate......I hadn't heard that drs. are not accepting new medicare patients. Is that across the board, all over the USA? Kinda scary. Now what do we do? I am on medicare myself......
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Well, I guess life has a way of working things out ...... I called my mother's Primary Dr. to set up an appt. to have a heart to heart talk to see if we could work things out, but found out that he just quit the field last Friday!!!! I am stunned as well as his staff. So, now I will have a meeting with the Dr. they transferred us to and see about a fresh start. I am thinking mom's former Dr. may have been experiencing burn out and that is why the awful attitude.....quite unlike his usual warm, friendly, helpful ways. Feedback? cadams
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Do you have the option of palliative care where you live? This could give you access to a visiting nurse to work with you about mom's health care issues and limit contact with the doctor to prescription renewals. AgingCare has a couple of article about palliative care, or you can search the site for what others have written

www.agingcare.com/articles/palliative-care-how-it-can-help-your-aging-parent-achieve-quality-of-life-136281.htm

www.agingcare.com/articles/palliative-care-what-is-it-and-how-is-it-different-from-hospice-197744.htm
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Reading again and reading between the lines - bedbound may mean time is limited, and if that means time is precious, they may have misunderstood your trying to communicate that and thought you did not know. There is a tendency still to make sure people are not "in denial" that is carried way too far by some older docs!

And if hospice does not offer anything you need or any financial/coverage advantages for you or mom at this time, there is no reason they have to be involved. If you do find a good reason to start that though make sure their philosophy is compatible with what you and mom want too, in terms of medication use, etc., and not just a cookie cutter approach like everyone gets morphine and Ativan around the clock, and stop all the other meds that may help them function or feel better. Had to fight tht a little for my mom... difficult memories there!
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Oh, I understand this. My Moms primary was just like that...I felt sure he just did not care...she was very old and he just shrugged and said.."well, she is very old". I ended up having to point blank ask for everything..he never volunteered any.

As for changing docs. That is t going to happen. There are near no physicians accepting new Medicare patients. With the reimbursement cut and cut again...docs don't want more of this patient/payer. My Mom tried to fire this doc years ago...and found she couldn't get a new one.

I became eligible for Medicare...but..I do not have a primary. Because I cannot find one accepting new Medicare patients. So..I just stick with the urgent care "doc-n-a-box" services. Just make sure it is not Emergency care... Medicare won't pay for that.
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I would have been someone who did not settle for "she's going to die" - I had to know an actual diagnosis too. Not just dementia, but how is her heart, etc. When a financial person reminded me that my parents were going to die, that was different; I needed to hear that to been to accept they were declining and that taking over everything for them and selling the house rather than keeping every option open for indefinite lengths of time was really the right thing to do.

A geriatrician who shares or at least fully appreciates your perspective on mom's life could be a better pick if your heart-to-heart talk does not work out. I would also have loved to have had more time to make memories with both my parents (especially with their grandkids) despite the onset of dementia and needs for care; we still respected their advance directives and all but didn't want to hasten death even with benign neglect, which is sometimes not so benign. I felt I had to tell my dad's doc that his quality of life was not so bad, and he did listen to me, but we did limit hospital stays for both my parents at the end when the status of major life-threatening impairments was non-reversible.
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Cadams; I sympathize with your problem with mom's primary. We had a similar situation with mom's primary back in the day and we were able to find her a wonderful geriatrician who practiced at/near the Independent Living place where we moved her. So don't give up on the idea of finding a doctor who will be a better fit; find out if there are doctors who make house calls in your area.

As to hospice, it sounds as though it might be a good idea, even though she is not actively dying. If the doctor will recommend it, it gets you a new set of medical professionals who will evaluate and support you in your keeping mom at home, and keeping her comfortable.

Many patients "graduate" from hospice because they do well.

It sounds as though there is not really a definitive dx for your mom at this point and what she needs is comfort care. That is really the definition of hospice.
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Dear cadams,

Good of you to advocate for your mom. GardenArtist is right, its never too late to find another doctor. Or report this doctor the Medical Association if necessary. I know its hard to find a good doctor but its worth it. Take the time to call around and see if you can get a second and third opinion.
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Why is it too late to change doctors? If he doesn't meet your expectations, wouldn't it be better to find someone who does?

I wouldn't tolerate his attitude toward giving up. I assume he's not a geriatric doctor?

We had two PCPs who were lousy; only a few visits and they were history. There were also 2 internists who were more thorough but clearly didn't know how to deal with older folk and they're history now too. I've got recommendations for a geriatric doctor, so that'll be the next one, and hopefully he'll work out.

I tried to work with the doctors who are now history, but some of them weren't worth the effort. One of them insisted that my father should be taking Fosamax, and insisted that he "has to take something!" Never once did he raise the issue that walking is the best exercise for osteoporosis. Nor was he concerned about the side effects of dangerous drugs like Fosmax. After a few discussions and he just couldn't grasp the fact that we don't see medicine as the solution for everything, and after his office failed to cooperate in getting home care, we moved on.

You can try one last time but if the doctor doesn't change his attitude, I'd find another one. It isn't worth the agony of trying to make some of the old style doctors get on board. Some of the younger doctors are so much more progressive. I love to work with them.
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