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Golden, I spend a lot of alone time contentedly, too. Lots of stuff to do, people to text, email, or they call, AC to read and post, You Tube videos/movies, and best of all (when hubby is away), 6 indoor kitty cats - three upstairs and 3 down, and a sweet dog to talk to and cuddle with! Not to mention books to write; books 4 and 5 are ready to publish - Busy, busy....
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Gershun, we go to a church 65 miles away, because the presence of the Lord is so strong there, we love it! In the winter, however, and when my hubby has to work on a Sunday, we've tried other churches in our town. After years in a couple of them, we needed to move on, but couldn't find one to fit here, so we go almost every Thursday to a Bible study in one of the churches that has a real mix of denominations - you can imagine some of the conversations! Fun, though, lively and interesting/informative, and we enjoy being with the other Christians. We all bring snacks, too.... "church" isn't actually a building, you know.
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Gershun,
That kind of treatment is experienced as rejection, and it lingers.
It speaks more to the pastor's dysfunction and really has nothing to do with you, imo.

In these days and times, I am reminded of instructions I have heard before,
that is to not check your brain at the door (when entering church). I see that you have already got this!

Our journey and desire for spiritual growth will not end just because the churches end in apostasy.
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Golden, you are right and that's what I did. I think I went four times or so and just stopped. He said several times "if you decide to stop coming you don't need to phone, just stop coming" Another remark I found odd but I guess he was trying to stress that it was up to us and to go at our own pace. But also maybe it was a way of releasing himself from any obligation to phone or inquire about our absence if we did stop going. I get that on one hand but it still smacks of indifference a little bit to me as well.

There were only two other people besides him and myself at these sessions. One was a member of his congregation, the other was one of these people who just went on and on about herself and then when we prayed she would throw in "amens" and "thank-you Father" throughout the prayer. To each his/her own but it just annoyed me. Plus I never stated where I was in my own Christian journey to them and he treated me like I was totally ignorant about the Bible. He'd look at me and say things like "just in case you aren't aware" etc. etc. Then he got into this big discussion about how he doesn't counsel women on a one on one basis because of how it might look. I was tempted to remind him of the story in the Bible of how people criticized Jesus cause he let a woman of ill repute wipe his feet with her hair and how Jesus responded to them. My point being Jesus wasn't worried what people thought.

Anyway, it's all water under the bridge now. I stopped going and that was that.
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I was more lonely in my first marriage than I ever have been since. Now I am alone a lot. Like Gershun, I can go for days and not see or talk to anyone, (other than texting), but I am never lonely. I like my own company, I have things that I look forward to and that interest me that I do during the day, as well as the less interesting routine chores. ((((((hugs)))))) to those in lonely relationships. I know what it is like. No fun!

Gershun - re that pastor, yikes!!! This is an example where judgement is appropriate. Not calling him names, but evaluating the situation and accepting that he was not good at the job of grief counselling and you needed to stop seeing him. If it (counselor, group etc.) doesn't work for me in the first few sessions, I respect my feelings, stop going and seek something else.
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Same here~
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I hear that!
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My hubs does not have to go away for me to be alone.
It is often more lonely when he is home.
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Yes Countrymouse I did consider that. Unfortunately he was not the only negative experience I have had with clergy. I have yet to meet any that I found relatable. That's not to say that I don't believe one is out there. It's just I've personally never had the good fortune of meeting them.
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Gershun, does it not occur to you that that pastor was seriously in the wrong job?!
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Willie, I hear ya. When Hubs is away I can go for days without talking to a soul.

My interactions consist of grocery store checkout people, Starbucks barristas and that's about that. I find myself talking to myself a lot. Talking to the cats but really talking to myself. :P

As for the whole church thing. I find it very sad that churches are so unwelcoming. Truly sad. Especially when you would think a church would be a place to find solace. I had big plans I was going to find a church to go to while Hubs was away but so far haven't. I still have two weeks but honestly don't like the idea of walking into a church by myself. That whole experience I had with the grief counselling turned me right off. The Pastor was a nervous prude and treated me like I was some Jezebel sent to tempt him. He actually had a panic attack one evening and had to leave. I just don't get it. I really don't.
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Thanks cwillie and others. I am afraid to get rid of anything, like call button, for fear she'll be back. I have decided to agree with you. I just can't do it long term anymore. She's an hour plus away, but she can be moved to 30 min. when a bed comes available. Tues' meeting will tell more.  Next snow is supposed to hold off till later that afternoon. 
Yes, small towns can be insular. Luckily I am sick enough to need one of those self-help groups, and have other adults to talk with. Good luck.
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God's peace Send. I'm still here at 10:30 so I don't think I'm going to make it back to church today. As for finding a new place - small town churches tend to be very insular communities so unless I'd be willing to join the "very devoted" set (and I'm not) I'd probably be completely ignored.
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Good Morning CWillie!
Schlep only if the weather allows.
Can you find a new church where you live?

Here is your ritual greeting:
Good Morning! Good to see you here today!
God Bless you.
Stay after the service and say hello.
Greet someone you do not know today.
Divide up into small groups for prayer in the sanctuary.
Go in Peace.

And remember, the life that He gives, He gives you forever!
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The sun is out this morning and I'm trying to decide whether or not to schlep back to my home town for church today. Sadly my visits to the NH were about the only social interaction I had, now unless I go shopping I can go days - weeks - without speaking to anyone face to face. No one will speak to me at church either beyond the ritual greetings, but it would pass the morning. God my life is pathetic.
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Well we all agree GrannieAnnie - IMO it's a no brainer. When I hit the wall with mom's care I was able to get her a 30 day respite stay with the possibility of permanent placement, two weeks in I was terrified she might have to come back home. It sure wasn't easy though.
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I agree with Send. If taking care of someone is causing you to neglect your own health issues you need to change something. I know that is not always easy but is a must.
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I hope it can stay funny too GrannieAnnie~& you do have a big decision ahead of you & I'm sorry you have to make it.
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Grannie Annie,
I believe your own health condition has made the decision for you.

There is one school of thought that teaches we should not treat our own bodies harshly. imo.
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Luckylu , sorry it got 'not' funny. My 2 children used to tell me that they'll never know if I get Alzheimer's cause I am already so forgetful. I hope it can stay funny.

My aunt is doing ok at rehab. We have a Care-plan meeting Tues. It's a week late because I was sick. My high blood pressure has gone down! So peaceful not waiting and listening for her next fall, or what to feed her, or why she's up and dressed at 2 am. I believe that I'm getting too old, and have too many health issues of my own to keep up after her rehab. Not easy to decide.
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Adblockers are lovely! I've used two and no problems, and NO viruses..... A few sites say disconnect it or you can't use our site - so I leave. (lol). Who cares? Worth it to be without all the distraction (mostly risque ads), and no computer troubles.
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Before Mom got so ill,my 2 brother's and I would joke about Mom getting alzheimers and we'd talk about what shifts we'd each take with her and we'd all laugh,but then...........................it wasn't funny anymore.
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It was before the new format, CWillie.
Now, everytime I close my computer, I was being logged out automatically.
So, I have increased my efforts to log out on purpose. Except when I fall asleep in the middle of posting.
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I have my Firefox browser set to toss cookies and history when I close so daily if not more often, I don't know why that would have caused trouble for you with the forum? I do have to sign in every day though.
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Thanks CWillie!
Now that I know what to call it, my hubs will help me. He hates it if I don't use the right words, or his words.
I have deleted cookies, history before. That time I was not able to log back in to AgingCare without help from admin.
But I will still avoid those click bait ads, just like avoiding all the tabloid papers at the market checkout as I have always done.
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Click bait Send, half the time it takes 20 pages to get to the info that interested you in the first place. Set your browser to disallow tracking and third party cookies. and delete cookies and history when you close. And seriously, use some kind of ad blocker.
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FF,
Avoid the online ads that draw you in, give you limited but enticing next page, then next page, until you never get your answer unless you pay for something.
Have you ever gone to the ones that say: "Never eat this one food"; OR,
"Three foods you should never eat".

Those are the ones you just cannot get through without the ads taking over.

After going there, you find your computer is slowing, hard to type in your words correctly.....etc. Advice is to shut your computer down for a few minutes, then restart. May not work. So just stay away from those ads.
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Sounds similar to the article I read MsM, it's that old joke about committing a crime in order to live for free in prison coming to life. Makes me wonder what Japanese prisons are like.
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There was an article a year or so ago how elderly lonely Japanese women commit shoplifting crimes so they will be sent to jail and taken care of -
the jail guards were complaining they were working as caregivers

one woman when released committed another crime to be sent back
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FF I'd rather have ads that aren't hidden as expert advice, IMO this is almost spam.
And try installing adblockplus if you want to get rid of pop up ads.
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